[Heb-NACO] Fwd: three parts of a work

Wed Jan 8 10:56:29 EST 2014

Jay, 
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The instructions in RDA are a bit confusing. RDA 6.23.10.3 tells us: 

Selections from the Talmud 

If the resource being described consists of selections, use the preferred title for the Talmud, followed by the term Selections. 

EXAMPLE 

Talmud. Selections 

Resource described: The Babylonian Talmud in selection / edited and translated from the original Hebrew and Aramaic by Leo Auerbach 

Talmud Yerushalmi. Selections 

Resource described: Der Jerusalemer Talmud : sieben ausgewälte Kapitel / übersetzt, kommentiert und eingeleitet von Hans-Jürgen Becker 

This is different than guidelines for selections from the Bible (RDA 6.23.2.9.7) where we are instructed to: 

“For other selections (including miscellaneous extracts) use the most specific title that is appropriate for the selections, followed by the term Selections.Record the specific title for the part or parts by applying these instructions, as applicable.” 

However, if we did not have that instruction we would handle your work in hand in a different way: 

Using your devised title as the title proper, we would refer to the second part of RDA 6.2.2.9 and the accompanying LC-PCC PS. 

RDA 6.2.2.9 (2 nd part) 

Unnumbered or non-consecutively numbered parts. When identifying two or more unnumbered or non-consecutively numbered parts of a work, record the preferred title for each of the parts. Apply the instructions at 6.2.2.9.1 . 

EXAMPLE 

Purgatorio 

Preferred title for a part of Dante Alighieri’s Divina commedia in a compilation also comprising the part Paradiso 

Paradiso 

Preferred title for a part of Dante Alighieri’s Divina commedia in a compilation also comprising the part Purgatorio 

Book 1 

Preferred title for a part of Homer’s Iliad in a compilation also comprising book 6 

Book 6 

Preferred title for a part of Homer’s Iliad in a compilation also comprising book 1 

Alternative 

When identifying two or more unnumbered or non-consecutively numbered parts of a work, identify the parts collectively. Record the conventional collective title Selections as the preferred title for the parts. Apply this instruction instead of or in addition to recording the preferred title for each of the parts. 

EXAMPLE 

Selections 

Preferred title for the parts of the work in a compilation comprising books 1 and 6 of Homer’s Iliad 

Selections 

Preferred title for the parts of the work in a compilation comprising four episodes of the television program The Simpsons originally broadcast between 1990 and 2001 

The LC-PCC PS provides guidelines for LC catalogers telling them to implement the Alternative. Thus in your case if you were an LC cataloger you would be required to create the preferred heading: 

Talmud Yerushalmi. Moed, Selections. This heading would go in a 130 field. 

and have the option of making 1, 2 or 3 added access points (730 field) for each of the individual, aka, 

Talmud Yerushalmi. Sukkah. Selectdions 

Talmud Yerushalmi. Rosh ha-Shanah Selections 

Talmud Yerushalmi. Moed. Selections 

I am not satisfied with the current RDA treatment of selections from the Talmud. My strong preference is that the rule be reexamined and reworded so that it allows for more specificity in identifying various parts of the Talmud. I would like to hear the thoughts of my colleagues. 

Thank you , Heidi 

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From: "Jay Rovner" <jarovner at jtsa.edu> 
To: "Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 12:53:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] three parts of a work 

I am cataloging a manuscript for which I devised the following title. Portions of tractates Sukkah, Rosh ha-shanah and Yoma from a Yemenite Talmud codex. 

Perhaps the “different places” you allude to would affect how i choose to word the title? 

JR 

Jay Rovner, PhD 

Manuscript Bibliographer 

The Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary 

5501 Library 

3080 Broadway 

New York City, New York 10027 

(212) 678-8045 

From: heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Heidi G Lerner 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 2:08 PM 
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel 
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] three parts of a work 

HI Jay, 

This situation is addressed in RDA in several different places, depending on the title proper of the work and how the contents are presented. If you have a specific resource that you are working on could you please describe it or provide a surrogate of the title page and anything else that might be relevant? 

Thanks, Heidi 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jay Rovner" < jarovner at jtsa.edu > 
To: "Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" < heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu > 
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 10:05:21 AM 
Subject: [Heb-NACO] three parts of a work 

Is the rule of three relevant in RDA as it was in AACR2? I mean, if a work contains several Talmudic tractates from seder Moed, one would assign a uniform title: Talmud. Moed. Selections. But if a work consists of three tractates from Moed, would each one get its own separate u.t., with the first tractate getting the 130, as with AACR2; or, must the 130 field reflect the entirety of the contents, i.e., Talmud. Moed. Selections. 

If so, would each of the three tractate get its own 730? 

Thank you. 

JR 

Jay Rovner, PhD 

Manuscript Bibliographer 

The Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary 

5501 Library 

3080 Broadway 

New York City, New York 10027 

(212) 678-8045 

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