[Heb-NACO] strings!

[Manuel Frau-Cortes]

Of course I meant tsere ☺

Thanks all


Neil M. Frau-Cortes

Hebraica Cataloger
McKeldin Library
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742
Phone (301) 405-9337
nfrau at umd.edu

From: heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Cliff Miller
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:39 PM
To: rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] strings!

My Even Shoshan shows tsere and not segol, but the word remains METARIM nonetheless. Clifford Miller

From: heb-naco-bounces+clmiller=jtsa.edu at lists.service.ohio-state.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces+clmiller=jtsa.edu at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+clmiller=jtsa.edu at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Robert M. TALBOTT
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:39 AM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] strings!

Goodmorning Manuel

I took a quick peek in Maher, and he pretty much confirms what I thought when I read your question:  the assumption that the "e" romanization is intended only for instances of yud as mater lectionis is wrong (as far as the romanization scheme goes).

I quote:

'Occasionally confusion may arise with the treatment of yod. In such cases, the yod in Hebrew is romanized as a "y"  only when it is followed by a vowel ... '  P.12 o' the online edition

Thus, as far as our romanization scheme goes the mater lectionis-ness of yud is irrelevant.  What matters is whether or not it's followed by a vowel.

My two cents, always with a grain of salt.  I defer to Those Who Know.

Cheers

B

On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Manuel Frau-Cortes <nfrau at umd.edu<mailto:nfrau at umd.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,

I have a question regarding the Romanization of the word מיתרים. The vowel under mem is a segol, followed by a yud, so it should be “metarim,” which is the solution I found in all LC records.

However the segol + yud rule is intended to be applied to cases where the yud is a mater lectionis, while in the word מיתר the yud is a radical. As Even-Shoshan says, it derives from יתר.

What to do in a case like that? If there are any native Hebrew speakers among us, do you pronounce this yud?


Neil M. Frau-Cortes
Hebraica Cataloger
McKeldin Library
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742
Phone (301) 405-9337
nfrau at umd.edu<http://nfrau@umd.edu>


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