[Heb-NACO] proposed instruction on conventional collective titles

Fri Feb 1 11:34:06 EST 2013

In the first example, the title proper is identical to the preferred title.  So a 246 is not needed.
Joan

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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] proposed instruction on conventional collective titles

Wait, I'm confused: why would we not make a 246 for the preferred title?  In the second example Joan sends below there is such a 246.  Please clarify.  Thanks, Jasmin

On 2/1/2013 11:06 AM, Heidi G Lerner wrote:
I think that it is what he is talking about. When we are providing collective titles for non-rabbinics that lack a generic  first word such as for most belles-lettres, we would not make a 246 for the "preferred titled." 99 percent of the title the preferred title would be the same as the title proper if we did not have the rule about collective titles as in example 1.
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On rereading Yossi's message, I realize that he is not asking about the treatment of "Sefer," "Kuntres," etc. in general (I'm preparing an HCM segment on that question, though), but wondering what happens to resources which now have to be given conventional collective titles in the 240.  Below are two examples--do they answer the question?  Yes, you could say the 240 "ignores" the title proper, and even the preferred title, of the book.

Joan

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] proposed instruction on conventional collective titles

I have a question regarding the 240 field: Till now we used to put in the 240 the title proper of the book ignoring the words Sefer, Kuntres, etc. (Berit ha-Levi for Sefer Berit ha-Levi). Does it mean that in RDA the 240 field will actually ignore the Title proper of the book and it will be replaced by a 246 field?

Yossi

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On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Biella, Joan <jbie at loc.gov<mailto:jbie at loc.gov>> wrote:
I think this is a separate question from the last one.  If it's not possible to determine which is the first or predominant work, then either

1) the thing can't be considered a compilation, per the answer to the last question, or
2) it belongs to one of the exempted categories in the LC-PCC PSs on 25.1 and 26.2

If neither of these is the case, I don't really see how one could ever be unable to determine the first work (OR the predominant work, for that matter).  Of course this work has to have a TITLE (and that's why collections of letters are exempted, for example).

Joan

From: heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>] On Behalf Of Jasmin Nof
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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] proposed instruction on conventional collective titles

(sorry, sent too soon)

Often in such cases it is not clear which is the "first or predominant work" -- it's all just one big jumble.

Jasmin

On 1/31/2013 2:08 PM, Jasmin Nof wrote:
What is one to do in a case where several such terms are given in a book's title? E.g.:

Sefer Yalḳuṭ ʻavodat Yiśraʼel : ḳevutsat maʼamarim, liḳuṭim yeḳarim, ʻal seder parashiyot ha-Torah ... / me-et Yiśraʼel, magid me-yesharim di-ḳḳ. Ḳoznits ; nilḳeṭu, neʻerkhu ṿe-sudru be-tseruf meḳorot, ʻiyunim ṿe-heʻarot ʻa. y. Mosheh Yeḥezḳel ha-Leṿi Blumenberg. (lccn2005352488)

Jasmin

On 1/31/2013 11:59 AM, Biella, Joan wrote:
Here's a draft Heidi and I have written for inclusion in the 2nd ed of Hebraica Cataloging.

Further comments from you?

Joan

PROPOSED NEW SECTION FOR HCM 2ND ED
Joan Biella and Heidi Lerner

The use of conventional collective titles is considerably expanded under RDA, owing to the fact that a distinction between “adequate” and “inadequate” titles proper, as described in LCRI 25.10, is no longer made.  Any compilation of two or more but not all of the works of a single person, family, or corporate body requires a conventional collective title followed by “Selections,” (cf. LC-PCC PS for the Alternative to 6.2.2.10.3).

For some types of compilations, an authorized access point for the first or predominant work in the compilation is also required (cf. LC-PCC PS for 26.1).

6.2.2.10.3 Other Compilations of Two or More Works, LC practice for the Alternative

For a compilation consisting of two or more but not all the works of one person, family, or corporate body, in a particular form, record a conventional collective title followed by “Selections.”  Give an authorized access point for the first or predominant work (Policy Statement 25.1) or expression (Policy Statement 26.1).

LC-PCC PS for 26.1 Related Expression
For compilations of expressions other than those which include the original expression and one or more translations, give an analytical authorized access point for the predominant or first expression in the compilation when it represents a substantial part of the resource. Disregard contributions such as a preface or introductory chapter. Generally, do not apply this core element to anthologies of poetry, hymnals, conference proceedings, journals, collections of interviews or letters, and similar resources.

Instruction 6.2.2.10.2  Complete Works in a Single Form provides a list of frequently-used conventional collective titles, and adds “If none of these terms is appropriate, record an appropriate specific collective title (e.g., Posters, Fragments, Encyclicals).”

                        Correspondence                                 Poems
                        Essays                                                            Prose works
                        Novels                                                 Short stories
                        Plays                                                   Speeches

For specific types of works often compiled in religious Hebrew publishing, use the following table (when catalogers’ judgment permits):

be’urim

Commentaries. Selections

derashot

Sermons. Selections

devarim

Works. Selections

ertseylungen (about a rabbi)

Anecdotes. Selections

halakhot

Religious laws. Selections

he‘arot, he’arot

Commentaries. Selections

ḥidushim

Novellae. Selections

ḳunṭresim

Minor works. Selections

liḳutim

Works. Selections

ma’amarim

Essays. Selections

mayśes̀ (about a rabbi)

Anecdotes. Selections

peninim

Works. Selections

perushim

Commentaries. Selections

pesaḳim

Decisions. Selections

shi‘urim

Lessons. Selections

sipurim (about a rabbi)

Anecdotes. Selections

teshuvot; she'elot u-teshuvot

Responsa. Selections

Or, looked at the other way around:

Anecdotes. Selections

ertseylungen ; mayśes̀ ; sipurim

Commentaries. Selections

be’urim ; he‘arot, he’arot ; perushim

Decisions. Selections

pesaḳim

Essays. Selections

ma’amarim

Lessons. Selections

shi‘urim

Minor works. Selections

ḳunṭresim

Novellae. Selections

ḥidushim

Religious laws. Selections

halakhot

Responsa. Selections

teshuvot ; she'elot u-teshuvot

Sermons. Selections

derashot

Works. Selections

devarim ; liḳutim ; peninim

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