[Heb-NACO] Trouble in the forest

[Robert M. TALBOTT]

Hi Heidi:

Thanks.

Cheers

B


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Heidi G Lerner <lerner at stanford.edu> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> I think that you are recommending the correct modification to the record.
> In the first place neither a "śin" or a "shin" is represented by an "s" in
> systematic ALA/LC romanization. This makes the existing xref incorrectly
> formulated above and beyond the lack of a space between the initials. The
> number of references that appear in a NAR are cataloger's judgement. In
> this case, the middle initial S. in the romanized form found on the
> resource does not tell us whether or not the middle name begins with an
> "Sh." or not, so it is very helpful to provide both the cross-references
> that you recommend and remove the 1st cross-reference since it is
> incorrect. You can also fix the punctuation of the initials in the heading
> and xrefs. Please also fix the mistake in the 670 and the punctuation of
> the initials in the heading and xrefs.
>
> Best, Heidi
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Robert M. TALBOTT" <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu>
> *To: *"Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <
> heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:02:11 PM
> *Subject: *[Heb-NACO] Trouble in the forest
>
> Good people of the Hebrew Name Authority Funnel!
>
> So, I ran across the below name authority:
>
> 1001 Gvirtzman, I.S.
> 4001 Gevirtsman, I.S.
> 4001 ‏גבירצמן, א.ש.
> 667  Non-Latin script reference not evaluated
> 670  Ḥolah ʻal ʻakhbarim, 2012: ǂb title page (I.S. Gevirtsman = א.ש.
> גבירצמן) page facing title page (I.S. Gvirtzman [romanized])
>
> This is causing me some issues.  Yes, I know, there should be a space
> between initials, but that's just a garden variety error and causes
> no anxiety.  The rendering of the shin, however, is troubling.
>
> The way I read the guidelines for Romanization, a "shin" is Sh and a
> "sin" is [acute]S.  The t.p. verso provides an S, but really, that doesn't
> help to narrow it down. The patent-pending "Bob Talbott method" for
> dealing the Romanized x-refs would have been as follows:
>
> 4001# Gevirtsman, I. Sh.
> 4001# Gevirtsman, I. [acute]S.
>
> ... unless I'm missing something.  Am I missing something? It's happened
> before, there's no denying.
>
> So: is the record correct as is?  If so, why?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Bob
> --
>
> Bob Talbott
> Hebraica Cataloger
> UC Berkeley
> 250 Moffitt
> Berkeley, CA 94720
>
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Bob Talbott
Hebraica Cataloger
UC Berkeley
250 Moffitt
Berkeley, CA 94720

We're happy as fish,
as gorgeous as geese,
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