[Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo

Mon Jul 10 15:34:04 EDT 2023

Very neutral and precise!

Vara Neverow
(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department and Women’s and Gender Studies Program
Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples.
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From: stuart.n.clarke <stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2023 3:24:14 PM
To: Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1 at southernct.edu>; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo

I would call them "distancing inverted commas".

Stuart
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On Monday, 10 Jul, 2023 At 19:23, Neverow, Vara S.<neverowv1 at southernct.edu> wrote:

Stuart mentioned "scare quotes." so I went hunting because I had never seen that phrase before. This Wikipedia article is quite informative (and rather lively!): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes__;!!KGKeukY!zU3Vvt7C36dT-rpAvJHEfEBFz6v6_SHjLYM6mb9GnEooOhwNtoDAjhPBV1MWNm1m8DS0RaHHRaG6Ctr67xuLW8byksAE$ . As it indicates, there are other rather amusing alternative terms for this technique. They are "also called shudder quotes,[1]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes*cite_note-1__;Iw!!KGKeukY!zU3Vvt7C36dT-rpAvJHEfEBFz6v6_SHjLYM6mb9GnEooOhwNtoDAjhPBV1MWNm1m8DS0RaHHRaG6Ctr67xuLW8awtzN2$ >[2]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes*cite_note-Pinker,_Steven_2014-2__;Iw!!KGKeukY!zU3Vvt7C36dT-rpAvJHEfEBFz6v6_SHjLYM6mb9GnEooOhwNtoDAjhPBV1MWNm1m8DS0RaHHRaG6Ctr67xuLWwzcLYby$ > sneer quotes,[3]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes*cite_note-3__;Iw!!KGKeukY!zU3Vvt7C36dT-rpAvJHEfEBFz6v6_SHjLYM6mb9GnEooOhwNtoDAjhPBV1MWNm1m8DS0RaHHRaG6Ctr67xuLW6IR2p54$ > and quibble marks," and G. E. M. Anscombe (Elizabeth Anscombe), a British analytic philosopher, crafted the term in 1956. <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes__;!!KGKeukY!zU3Vvt7C36dT-rpAvJHEfEBFz6v6_SHjLYM6mb9GnEooOhwNtoDAjhPBV1MWNm1m8DS0RaHHRaG6Ctr67xuLW8byksAE$ >

Vara

Vara Neverow
(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department
Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.

Recent Publications:

Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Pająk, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

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From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+neverowv1=southernct.edu at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 10:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo

1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: “In 1900, he founded Sphere, which he edited up until his death in 1926. ” https: //en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Clement_Shorter VW calls him a ‘reptile’ in letter #744. 2. Note the ref. in the article to ‘good stories’
1. C. K. S. is Clement King Shorter: “In 1900, he founded Sphere<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sphere_(newspaper)__;!!KGKeukY!1hb-ystj2YA8S8E1X0PQFYyTiA3NLFqGkxU9w_Og34E-KKtFQfAYZBUU9fPs5n-jnOd7pGvyCulAKyx7Y7iVEVIPZkvJx15cGg$>, which he edited up until his death in 1926.”
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Shorter__;!!KGKeukY!zU3Vvt7C36dT-rpAvJHEfEBFz6v6_SHjLYM6mb9GnEooOhwNtoDAjhPBV1MWNm1m8DS0RaHHRaG6Ctr67xuLW0J6lxMb$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Shorter__;!!KGKeukY!1hb-ystj2YA8S8E1X0PQFYyTiA3NLFqGkxU9w_Og34E-KKtFQfAYZBUU9fPs5n-jnOd7pGvyCulAKyx7Y7iVEVIPZkubHIP_PA$>
VW calls him a ‘reptile’ in letter #744.

2. Note the ref. in the article to ‘good stories’ (middle col. nr bottom).  I have raised this issue on an earlier occasion on the list (but not clearly I think) over ‘the battle of life’.  Usually, when VW uses quote marks in her essays, she’s quoting, but sometimes they are what is now oddly called ‘scare quotes’.  I don’t think Andrew McNeillie fully appreciated this, for (e.g.) when VW wrote ‘something which is called “the battle of life”’ (E4 426), he annotates it as “The source of this apparent quotation has not been discovered” (E4 428 n3).  Perhaps I, too, had the same problem: for ‘good stories’ and ‘interesting opinions’, see E6 327 and 328 n4.

Stuart

From: danelljones at bresnan.net
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 2:40 PM
To: 'Stuart N. Clarke' ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu
Subject: RE: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo

Eureka!

Thank you so much Stuart, Stephen, and Alice! It is, indeed, in The Sphere and I was able to find it on the British Newspaper Archive once I had the title of the article.

I did a search of words in the caption earlier but came up with nothing. Sometimes databases hide their treasures.

I’m attaching it here.

We really are a gathering of sleuths!

I would gladly add what I have learned about getting licensing for photographs to some kind of information pool. My book is being sold a trade book so, I believe, the picture libraries are charging me more than they would for an academic publication. I’ve also discovered that it depends on how long your publisher can wait to get the permissions—sometimes it can take months, so they just go with a picture collection that works faster.

But Maggie Humm is the person who has done the most with getting images. I’m sure she has lots of stories to tell!

Thank everyone again. I so appreciate this.

Danell

From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+danelljones=bresnan.net at lists.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 1:40 AM
To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu
Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf photo

I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the “Sphere” on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 – and that I got the info. via Stephen! Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive? It’s almost

I have a record that "A LITERARY LETTER: Books from the Hogarth Press" with the photo appeared in the “Sphere” on Sat, 7 Jun 1924, p. 14 – and that I got the info. via Stephen!  Was it tracked down on the British Newspaper Archive?  It’s almost 3 years since we discussed it.

Stuart

From: Stephen Barkway via Vwoolf

Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:06 AM

To: 'Alice Staveley' ; danelljones at bresnan.net

Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; 'Gretchen Gerzina'

Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo

I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can’t at the moment, say why or when, I’m afraid. Stephen From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+sbarkway=btinternet. com@ lists. osu. edu> On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via VwoolfSent: 

I have a feeling it was used in the Illustrated London News . . . but can’t at the moment, say why or when, I’m afraid.

Stephen

From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+sbarkway=btinternet.com at lists.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Alice Staveley via Vwoolf
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:00 AM
To: danelljones at bresnan.net
Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu; Gretchen Gerzina <ozma at sover.net>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo

Hi Danell, So excited to see this image pop up — I’m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I’m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and

Hi Danell,

So excited to see this image pop up — I’m pretty sure it comes from The Sphere magazine in the early 1920s (I’m working on a book on Woolf as publisher and came across a diary reference to her being photographed for The Sphere, and was amazed to discover that it actually happened, the shots accompanying an article about Leonard and Virginia as cutting edge publishers).  I can dig out the reference for you — just email and we can sleuth together!  I would be surprised if Time has ownership rights to the image though as The Sphere was definitely a British publication (unless of course, as is possible, the image appeared transatlantically in another context or Time gobbled up The Sphere at some point).

Best wishes

Alice

On Jul 8, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Danell Jones via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

That's excellent advice, Gretchen.  And I also like the call from you, Mark, to rebel. It is such a racket.
The good news for people looking to use Woolf photos, you can use the images from the Houghton Library, Harvard for free: Virginia Woolf Monk's House photographs, circa 1867-1967. MS Thr 564 (103). Houghton Library, Harvard University.

Danell
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From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:50 PM
To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf photo

Danell,

In the past, I've been able to negotiate for photos. They have a list price, but once or twice I contacted them and said I was an academic who had to pay for images out of my own pocket, and they reduced the fee. It's worth a try.

Gretchen

Today's Topics:

1. Re: Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published? (Mark Hussey)

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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:32:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mark Hussey <mailto:mhussey at verizon.net%20%3cmailto:mhussey at verizon.net>>
To: "mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%3e"
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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published?
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Yes!?
On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 01:05:43 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. <mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu%20%3cmailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>> wrote:

You mean "trespass at once"?
Vara Neverow(she/her/hers)
Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu <mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.??

Recent Publications:

Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

From: Mark Hussey <mailto:mhussey at verizon.net%20%3cmailto:mhussey at verizon.net>>
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:02 PM
To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu <mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> <mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>>; danelljones at bresnan.net <mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net> <mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net>>; Neverow, Vara S. <mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu%20%3cmailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Oh, I didn?t follow the link just looked at your email.Unconscionable what entities charge for images! I think scholars should rebel,?
On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:44:27 PM PDT, Neverow, Vara S. <mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu%20%3cmailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>> wrote:

Hi Mark,
Scroll down...you'll see it on the left (or at least I do at:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/artsandculture.google.com/asset/woolf-virginia-1882-1941-novelish/kAEeT-TX3WLjWg__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBFxbHHeyw$>> ) . It leads nowhere except the "novelish" connection....here it is with the image....
| | Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish - Google Arts & CultureWoolf
| | Virginia 1882-1941 Novelishartsandculture.google.com |

Vara
Vara Neverow(she/her/hers)
Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu <mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.??

Recent Publications:

Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

From: Mark Hussey <mailto:mhussey at verizon.net%20%3cmailto:mhussey at verizon.net>>
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:41 PM
To: Neverow, Vara S. <mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu%20%3cmailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>>; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu <mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> <mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>>; danelljones at bresnan.net <mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net> <mailto:danelljones at bresnan.net%20%3cmailto:danelljones at bresnan.net>>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??But the image here (?novelish?!) is not the one Danell sent.

Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

On Saturday, July 8, 2023, 3:03 PM, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf <mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:

Title: Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish Physical Dimensions: B/W PRINT Publisher: TimeLife Usage: For personal non-commercial use only Provider: LIFE Original ID: TimeLife_image_110872280 Credits: Mansell Copyright: ? Time Inc. https:?//artsandculture.?google.?com/entity/m080r3
- Title:?Woolf Virginia 1882-1941 Novelish
- Physical Dimensions:?B/W PRINT
- Publisher:?TimeLife
- Usage:?For personal non-commercial use only
- Provider:?LIFE
- Original ID:?TimeLife_image_110872280
- Credits:?Mansell
- Copyright:?? Time Inc.
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/artsandculture.google.com/entity/m080r3__;!!KGKeukY!0xQUO4eueM4qYqCeVm1ljHJspNE-Qzl2aHdjUTV53bdjvrNoKrOikaExEWo482laeuX6fBgXO4gLqoKbwWbeYfN3sBEa4Prckw$>>

| | Virginia Woolf - Google Arts & CultureAdeline Virginia Woolf was an English writer, considered one of the most important modernist 20th-century authors and a pioneer in the use of stream of con...artsandculture.google.com |

I think this is the info. you need (it was a quick search using just the caption plus the names.?
Nice find! I can see why it's expensive?Timeis not generous.?
Vara
Vara Neverow(she/her/hers)
Professor, English DepartmentEditor,?Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717
neverowv1 at southernct.edu <mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut?State?University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac?peoples.??

Recent Publications:

Lead editor,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,?Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020);?Co-editor,?The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina?Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

From: Vwoolf <mailto:vwoolf-bounces+neverowv1=southernct.edu at lists.osu.edu%20%3cmailto:southernct.edu at lists.osu.edu>> on behalf of Danell Jones via Vwoolf <mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>>
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 2:46 PM
To: vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu <mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> <mailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu%20%3cmailto:vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu>>
Subject: [Vwoolf] Anyone Know Where This Was Originally Published??Hi All, I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the

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Hi All,

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I am going to be using this image of LW and VW in my forthcoming book. The source is The LIFE Picture Collection. But, I am curious where it originally appeared. Time magazine? It looks to me like a much earlier photograph from the one that appeared on the cover ofTime.

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Just wondering if anyone knows where it first appeared.

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Thanks!

?

Danell

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P.S. It is quite expensive to license this particular image for a book, just FYI.

?

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