[Vwoolf] Giles (ex names and nations)

Mon May 16 12:37:45 EDT 2022

Hello all

"Giles Lytton Strachey" indeed has a strong echo. "Little goat" or "goat"
was one of Ginni's (Vir*Gi*nia's family nicknames (incl. from her mother
"hold yourself straight, little goat").

Gilles as the epitome of the idiot (le niais) did not strike me as the most
evident (in BA), complete stupidity not being the main trait of this
character...

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On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 6:25 PM Shilo McGiff via Vwoolf <
vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> What of "Gilles" as a stock figure in French farce?
> In any event, "little goat" gives this (somewhat) modern student of
> pastoral...a frisson.
>
> Happy Monday, All.
>
> SRM
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> On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:58 AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf <
> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
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>> Sorry if I’ve overlooked a post, but… Giles Lytton Strachey
>>
>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <
>> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval
>> period (St Giles was the patron saint of “cripples”), and appropriately
>> there’s a Giles Martyn in “The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn”. Giles
>> sounds a posh name to me,
>> Giles is not very common in Woolf.  It was a popular name in the medieval
>> period (St Giles was the patron saint of “cripples”), and appropriately
>> there’s a Giles Martyn in “The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn”.  Giles
>> sounds a posh name to me, and indeed a distant cousin of Woolf’s was Sir
>> Gyles Isham, Bt (see letter no. 2690), who nevertheless was an ACTOR:
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!0kD2qJ9g-j8sBmppe9bsSQObRJOaJRq1u1dFPBLMbaoOuGhNTUPZxYMW4uR7qehRqpycaXleW45lkw$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!2q9eNjnnq9Wq29f7uwXV7BpR0hHa9Ugyp4UbHmVmdFQzy7d6URIJK4QyBXyFumNoYXC_euI-5Yz0Xa3lIWidolLyIkB1JViURagalBTYIQ$>
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> *From:* Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2022 10:00 AM
>> *To:* VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
>> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] names and nations
>>
>> Stuart’s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller’s
>> Catch 22 – it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions
>> inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name
>> Yossarian
>>
>> Stuart’s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller’s *Catch
>> 22* – it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions
>> inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name
>> Yossarian is associated with events that dealt him metaphorical black eyes.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Yossarian* - the very sight of the name made him shudder. There were so
>> many esses in it. It just had to be subversive. It was like the word
>> *subversive* itself. It was like *seditious* and *insidious* too, and
>> like *socialist*, *suspicious*, *fascist* and *Communist*. It was an
>> odious, alien distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence. It
>> was not at all like such clean, crisp, honest American names as Cathcart,
>> Peckem and Dreedle.
>>
>>
>>
>> (Why does Heller give “Communist” a capital letter?)
>>
>>
>>
>> One Woolf name I have often wondered about is Giles, in *Between the
>> Acts*. What associations does that name have for readers - or did it
>> have for Woolf?
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