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Hello all "Giles Lytton Strachey" indeed has a strong echo. "Little goat" or "goat" was one of Ginni's (VirGinia's family nicknames (incl. from her mother "hold yourself straight, little goat").
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<div dir="ltr">Hello all<div><br></div><div>"Giles Lytton Strachey" indeed has a strong echo. 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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">What of "Gilles" as a stock figure in French farce? <div>In any event, "little goat" gives this (somewhat) modern student of pastoral...a frisson.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy Monday, All.</div><div><br></div><div>SRM<br><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:58 AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Sorry if I’ve overlooked a post, but… Giles Lytton Strachey </div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:
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Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval period (St Giles was the patron saint of “cripples”), and appropriately there’s a Giles Martyn in “The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn”. Giles sounds a posh name to me,
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<div>Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the
medieval period (St Giles was the patron saint of “cripples”), and appropriately
there’s a Giles Martyn in “The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn”. Giles
sounds a posh name to me, and indeed a distant cousin of Woolf’s was Sir Gyles
Isham, Bt (see letter no. 2690), who nevertheless was an ACTOR:</div>
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<div id="gmail-m_-321671872981385623gmail-m_-8258055286155163416gmail-m_1850091396958543124ydpcde0dadyiv6488651605yqtfd65723"><div><b>From:</b> <a shape="rect" title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Jeremy
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 15, 2022 10:00 AM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [Vwoolf] names and nations</div></div></div></div><div id="gmail-m_-321671872981385623gmail-m_-8258055286155163416gmail-m_1850091396958543124ydpcde0dadyiv6488651605yqtfd88010">
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<div style="font-size:1px;max-width:0px;color:rgb(255,255,255);line-height:1px;min-height:0px;display:none">Stuart’s
exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller’s Catch 22 – it deals
with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions inspired are similar.
Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name Yossarian </div>
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<p>Stuart’s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph
Heller’s <i>Catch 22</i> – it deals with surnames rather than given names, but
the emotions inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the
name Yossarian is associated with events that dealt him metaphorical black eyes.
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<p><i>Yossarian</i> - the very sight of the name made him
shudder. There were so many esses in it. It just had to be subversive. It was
like the word <i>subversive</i> itself. It was like <i>seditious</i> and
<i>insidious</i> too, and like <i>socialist</i>, <i>suspicious</i>,
<i>fascist</i> and <i>Communist</i>. It was an odious, alien distasteful name,
that just did not inspire confidence. It was not at all like such clean, crisp,
honest American names as Cathcart, Peckem and Dreedle.</p>
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letter?)</p>
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<p>One Woolf name I have often wondered about is Giles, in
<i>Between the Acts</i>. What associations does that name have for readers - or
did it have for Woolf?</p>
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