[Ohiogift] Early entrance to kindergarten assessment
Ms118rbts at aol.com
Ms118rbts at aol.com
Fri May 10 11:27:24 EDT 2013
I agree. We have had a few instances of siblings in the same grade and has
not stopped the acceleration. One just has to help all involved (not just
the accelerated student) through the process.
Sally R
In a message dated 5/9/2013 5:53:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
boyleconsulting at me.com writes:
The WISC GAI score has been covered in ODE's FAQ for gifted ID for a few
years now. It isn't addressed in the IAS, but there is no reason an evaluator
shouldn't consider it during an acceleration eval. (And frankly, I see no
need or the IAS to be revised with it. It is silly that they charge a ton
of money for a "revised" document that has 1-2 new sentences in it like they
did with the last revision.)
The sibling contraindicator, in my opinion, is something to seriously
discuss, but I don't think it is a slam dunk close the door for some kids. Now,
I've not had an early k referral where this was an issue, nor have I had a
profoundly gifted early k referral. But, should a case arise, I think it is
worth a conversation but not necessarily immediate exclusion.
The 115 IQ is a completely different story. Because we are talking about
putting a child in an advanced placement compared to typical development,
there is a very real need for a child to be at that cognitive level to handle
internal accommodations needed in the process of adapting to the group of
older kids. So, if I encounter a child without the 115, I do not continue
the process nor do I call a committee. If the child gets 115 but doesn't get
the 10 total points on the assessment rating, I also stop without finishing
the IAS or committee. I explain the criteria and supporting research to
the parents, I offer an interpretation of the child's strengths and
weaknesses from the cog test (and achievement if given), and I give suggestions of
things the parent can do at home to continue the child's development. But, I
don't do any other testing. I know i am putting myself on the line by
sharing the publicly, but i think the rationale is defensible and in line with
the approved IAS. I can't justify putting a small child through that nor
pulling teachers and principals from classes the last week of school for
meetings that are a definite no. Plus, districts with Aug. 1 cutoffs or all day
kindergarten tend to get more referrals (at least in my experience). When
responsible for large districts or multiple districts, coordinators need a
way to manage the load without depriving kids of needed opportunities. If
it is an older child considered for whole grade acceleration, that is
different since there are In-school options that can still be discussed. But
for early K, where there are no other school options within the district, the
conversation really stops at that point.
After doing this for several years, data seems to confirm how i handle
this. My referrals have cog scores clustered between 95-105 (usually kids who
miss the cutoff by a couple of days) and 120 or higher (usually miss the
cutoff by a month or more). Scores between 105 and 120 are rare in my early k
referrals. I've gone back and reviewed the later grade testing of kids I
have reviewed in any way with this process. Every child I stopped after a
cog score less than 115 has a 2nd or 3rd grade cognitive score within 1 SEM
of the original score and has achievement scores ranging from 35%ile to
85%ile. Every child I screened completely through with the IAS and did not
place also has a cog score within 1 SEM of the original cog score and usually
is scoring in subject areas between 75th%ile and 95%ile (I get an
occasional subject area ID from some of those kids, but not new cog IDs). Kids who
go through the entire process and are placed usually have cog scores
within 1 SEM at a minimum, and some who may have had a 125 or so on the original
cog test end up cog ID later on. Achievement scores usually fall between
85%ile and 99%ile in the accelerated grade level. So, it seems to be
working well and placing the right kids.
Colleen
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On May 9, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Anne Flick <_anneflick at yahoo.com_
(mailto:anneflick at yahoo.com) > wrote:
That is interesting Colleen. I would love to learn criteria you have
found that helped you in the process to consider for a student with IQ<115.
Another point is that the WISC publisher now notes that GAI is more
accurate than FSIQ for some gifted children. I'm not sure if the 3rd ed. of the
IAS includes this updated protocol.
Another IAS automatic contraindicator for acceleration is if the child
would be placed into a grade at the same level or a level above an older
sibling. Plenty of families of PG children have ignored this caveat with no
issues in their families. Some kids are so profoundly gifted that it would be
cruel to hold them behind a sibling, and where sibling difficulties arise,
they manage them because the younger child's academic needs are so
extreme.
Karen, thank you for sharing your district's resources.
Anne
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the IAS also says right at the beginning that acceleration shouldn't be
considered if the IQ score is below a 115 or if the total of the ratings for
the aptitude, achievement, and ability scores is less than 10. So,
depending on the child's tested ability, a modified process may be very
appropriate. (This should be child specific and based on objective criteria, not at
a district whim.)
Colleen Boyle, Ph.D.
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