[Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... / Tavistock Hotel

Sat Jan 18 07:11:51 EST 2025

I did indeed :) and you may find it funny when I tell you that as soon as I stepped into this specifically sacred facility I had to take  my phone out to take a photo

I'll attach it here  for those who are interested to see its decorated wall, to  take a quick peekaboo through  its open door.

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From: Sarah M. Hall <smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk>
Sent: 18 January 2025 09:34
To: Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; Caroline Webb <caroline.webb at newcastle.edu.au>; Annaliese Hoehling <annalieseh at gmail.com>; Avery, Todd <todd_avery at uml.edu>; Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1 at southernct.edu>; stringsOf Light <stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... / Tavistock Hotel

Give it a few weeks and you'll come across the Executive Council of the VWSGB, there for their quarterly meeting.

Have you visited the (ahem) facilities? Also a VW presence in this most intimate of settings.

Sarah

Sarah M. Hall
Executive Council
Virginia Woolf Society of GB
Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk
Facebook: @VWSGB
Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB
Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety

On Friday, 17 January 2025 at 21:01:07 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

At the Tavistock Hotel I've been waiting for you to come today, but couldn’t find you 😉?. As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first time, all I could see in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf’s profile, as a proof that she is waiting eagerly
At the Tavistock Hotel
I've been waiting for you to come today, but couldn’t find you 😉?.

As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first time,  all I could see in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf’s profile, as a proof that she is waiting eagerly for you all.
One day, some day,
soon to come.

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...

Let's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar: https: //www. imperialhotels. co. uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/ A glance at the menu: https: //www. imperialhotels. co. uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21. pdf
Let's go to the Tavistock!

A view of the bar:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/__;!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKZh3VwrL$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/__;!!KGKeukY!0-blkWtjsU6GdDXnlyQ1YS3IGrHmy498SMclmAQeyxisac_GAQ0xxe1aXssMwyMzoec0PM91Bzr8uXwyVOzUVCkoLqNn$>

A glance at the menu:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKVbHa5y0$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0-blkWtjsU6GdDXnlyQ1YS3IGrHmy498SMclmAQeyxisac_GAQ0xxe1aXssMwyMzoec0PM91Bzr8uXwyVOzUVLFXm_dJ$>

Vara

Vara Neverow
(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department
Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717<tel:203-392-6717>
neverowv1 at southernct.edu

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.

Recent Publications:

Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Pająk, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

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From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Avery, Todd via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 2:43 PM
To: Caroline Webb <caroline.webb at newcastle.edu.au>; Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; Annaliese Hoehling <annalieseh at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...

Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+todd_avery=uml. edu@ lists. osu. edu>
Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...

Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces@ lists. osu. edu> on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf <vwoolf@ lists. osu. 
Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces@ lists. osu. edu> on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf <vwoolf@ lists. osu. edu>
Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A.A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web!
Caroline
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Sent: 04 January 2025 10:11
To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...

The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S. [quare, W. C. 1] "I’ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey. ” 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929]
The closest I've found in the Letters:

1847: To V. Sackville-West
Sunday night [22 January 1928]
52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1]

"I’ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.”

1987: To V. Sackville-West
Monday [28 January 1929]
[52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1]

“I keep thinking of you and long—oh Lord how I long—that you would open the door and come in.”

And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway.

As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most erroneous attributions for.

At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars to verify!

On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29 PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:
It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1@ southernct. edu> Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025
It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah !

Fred Shapiro

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...

Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at “squares where all the couples are triangles” by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38:
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Vara

Vara Neverow
(she/her/hers)
Professor, English Department
Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany
Southern Connecticut State University
New Haven, CT 06515
203-392-6717<tel:203-392-6717>
neverowv1 at southernct.edu<mailto:neverowv1 at southernct.edu>

I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.

Recent Publications:

Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Pająk, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka)

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From: Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+neverowv1=southernct.edu at lists.osu.edu<mailto:southernct.edu at lists.osu.edu>> on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>>
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...

I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to
I am just now discovering the misattribution page.  Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there.  For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974.

Fred Shapiro
Editor
New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press)

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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...

At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://wikiquote.org__;!!KGKeukY!xFdZ987V2meaYq5yJx_r2P9lHIqC32jwbZz60R5RjHr5lFAxOLgSDDCiSBfSqeX_c7FdqGmgMxk1u3oqoQyblos$> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwikiquote.org*2F__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oBBzFjDw*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203701581*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=7GGJMC3IR5LYF2Vl53fePBsVWUd7iW*2BP2hpws1N2JH4*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKTHE9h13$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwikiquote.org*2F__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oBBzFjDw*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203701581*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=7GGJMC3IR5LYF2Vl53fePBsVWUd7iW*2BP2hpws1N2JH4*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!w6BhqsWC2QsGADlVdSJlShnP-FpMbWJDTAEImKxJ2H2CEtAqgTgZblkcAW-K-S7z-ylL0M-RERELMCTktXEqD8Zb7nY$> >:

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Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page?

> On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31 AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu<mailto:vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:
>
> In case you didn’t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn’t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKUBOkTvd$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk$>
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