[Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...

Fri Jan 3 18:11:30 EST 2025

The closest I've found in the Letters:

1847: To V. Sackville-West
Sunday night [22 January 1928]
52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1]

"I’ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.”

1987: To V. Sackville-West
Monday [28 January 1929]
[52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1]

“I keep thinking of you and long—oh Lord how I long—that you would open the
door and come in.”

And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all,
based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway.

As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a
kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing
that we always have to explain to authors is that just because
"BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't
make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most
erroneous attributions for.

At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars
to verify!

On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29 PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf <
vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

> It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are
> nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred
> Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1@ southernct. edu> Sent: Friday,
> January 3, 2025
> It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are
> nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah !
>
> Fred Shapiro
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Neverow, Vara S. <neverowv1 at southernct.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM
> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; Edward Mendelson <
> edward.mendelson at columbia.edu>; Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...
>
> Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the
> Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance
> at “squares where all the couples are triangles” by Stuart N. Clarke in
> Issue 92 of the *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* on page 38:
>
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> Vara
>
>
> Vara Neverow
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> Professor, English Department
> Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany*
> Southern Connecticut State University
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces+neverowv1=southernct.edu at lists.osu.edu> on
> behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM
> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; Edward Mendelson <
> edward.mendelson at columbia.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...
>
> I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of
> quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For
> example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares,"
> referring to
> I am just now discovering the misattribution page.  Modern techniques of
> quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there.  For
> example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares,"
> referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974.
>
> Fred Shapiro
> Editor
> New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press)
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Edward
> Mendelson via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM
> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...
>
> At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to
> the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org <
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>
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> Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page?
>
> > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31 AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf <
> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > In case you didn’t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated
> to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn’t know, Stuart
> N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB
> website:
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