From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Thu Jan 2 14:19:21 2025 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:19:21 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Message-ID: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keczarnecki at gmail.com Thu Jan 2 14:24:00 2025 From: keczarnecki at gmail.com (Kristin Czarnecki) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 14:24:00 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!22BKPo63GeJCgRilmgf9W9TwZ5-1IqIQgWHXmgC1PvP1O0DKRfuHJFPnc31HivQrQErN-nqHhpTkNyaVhFNQws26$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have > received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for > Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase > below. I am reaching out to > Dear Woolves, > > Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email > from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants > to find out about permission to use the phrase below. > I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the > following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. > *"In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you."* > Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their > upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission > appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's > works or if there are any rights associated with its use? > As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and > Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and *might *be > associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own > phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I > suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of *Vita > and Virginia *(or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google > Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of *Virginia Woolf: The > Complete Works *not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle > version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one > instance is part of that phrase.) > Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the > Woolf societies and the *Miscellany* that I am asking Woolf scholars and > common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more > about the origin and history of the phrase. > Best, > Vara > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut **State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.* > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.travis at frontier.com Thu Jan 2 14:44:58 2025 From: mark.travis at frontier.com (mark.travis at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 19:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry.? Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf wrote: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-QuoteHello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the?diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!3SeFU2lB6ABx7JkLJkiU2GpdrZUlOHNYvMsoC-r7pYIpAkNfy4hEYIpJ6st0yyMAXOqYZIazpb4F1K5DQJC04XaBAg$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out toDear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below.I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf."In case you ever foolishly forget:? I am never not thinking of you."Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately.? Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use???As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously andmight be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version ofVita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version ofVirginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.)Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and theMiscellany?that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase.?Best, VaraVara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor,The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, PaulinaPaj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Thu Jan 2 15:53:43 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 20:53:43 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On this website https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/805468-just-in-case-you-ever-foolishly-forget-i-m-never-not__;!!KGKeukY!1eSWSOiMvJTSXzZrQI07engnuWXFvryL_c6cDdxHfF5DcV48-cCbMlitKgruipAGAYdvCkPpv6NJAbvN6weZST-zfeNABIaL$ it says, This Quote Is From [Selected Diaries]Selected Diaries by Virginia Woolf Well it certainly isn't, I've checked that for you on OpenLibrary. So there we go, one less to go Vara. But if I am to follow my instinct (and sometimes I do), I don't think Virginia Woolf wrote it at all. That's a bold statement one could say, but I like to gamble. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 19:19 To: vwoolf listerve Cc: vwoolfsociety at gmail.com ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danelljones at bresnan.net Thu Jan 2 16:28:11 2025 From: danelljones at bresnan.net (danelljones at bresnan.net) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 14:28:11 -0700 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of mark.travis--- via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. ; Kristin Czarnecki Cc: vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:?24:?50 FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf > wrote: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!1CCmytCgxU-yysTF9w4hlMgBhybArwEsJxDO8PfXJMSI2nutfbIjrWR7jLUaK-iJ-T3hHInWu7KOyQcWMKzcud-Njw$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markh102 at gmail.com Thu Jan 2 16:55:28 2025 From: markh102 at gmail.com (Mark Hussey) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 16:55:28 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...! Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: > For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW > Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an > invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf On > Behalf Of mark. travis--- > > For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW *Complete > Works*, which includes the diaries. > > > > Are we leaning toward an invented quote? > > > > Danell > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *mark.travis--- > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM > *To:* Neverow, Vara S. ; Kristin Czarnecki < > keczarnecki at gmail.com> > *Cc:* vwoolf listerve ; > info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > > > FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not > from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people > that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January > 2, 2025 at 11: 24: 50 > > FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not > from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of > people that Woolf corresponded with. > > Mark Scott > Common Reader > > > > On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via > Vwoolf wrote: > > > > > > Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from > the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which > also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: > https: //www. online-literature. com/forums/showthread. > php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote > > Hello, > > > > A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from > the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which > also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: > > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!2x6KzicmfQ2jlC0yEza6P7w0KJM1U52V1KeeKvtTQA0_OCOAlHJKsojVIGkF7RZ4_-Ywx_EaLKgk19rTnR4D$ > > > > > Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Kristin > > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have > received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for > Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase > below. I am reaching out to > > Dear Woolves, > > > > Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email > from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants > to find out about permission to use the phrase below. > > I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the > following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. > > *"In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you."* > > Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their > upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission > appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's > works or if there are any rights associated with its use? > > As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and > Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and *might *be > associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own > phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I > suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of *Vita > and Virginia *(or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google > Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of *Virginia Woolf: The > Complete Works *not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle > version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one > instance is part of that phrase.) > > Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the > Woolf societies and the *Miscellany* that I am asking Woolf scholars and > common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more > about the origin and history of the phrase. > > Best, > Vara > > Vara Neverow > > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut **State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.* > > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Thu Jan 2 17:01:14 2025 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 22:01:14 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have something in mind? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:55 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net Cc: mark.travis at frontier.com ; Neverow, Vara S. ; Kristin Czarnecki ; vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk ; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...! Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of mark.?travis--- For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of mark.travis--- via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki > Cc: vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:?24:?50 FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf > wrote: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!02iyZ05ccI0dGGqgqSAfuPQmTGITWMjgWuAoq0fI_C5_SOE_qjSHALIvNa21MPtSy4eHG0WxtiqV7pXBYLQrq3LADtAK$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Thu Jan 2 17:07:40 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 22:07:40 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Vara This leads me to think (which seems like a good question for Tiffany & Co), if they are looking for a suitable Woolf's quote, or they would still like to use the one that seems to be, hmm not from Woolf?. I mean, there are so many beautiful Woolf's sentences inside her work which is not on internet. Which ones do you have in mind Vara, I am curious to know : ) ? ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 19:19 To: vwoolf listerve Cc: vwoolfsociety at gmail.com ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mc at clarior.net Thu Jan 2 17:18:32 2025 From: mc at clarior.net (Marie Claire Boisset) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 23:18:32 +0100 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Please may I inject an old-fashioned *adjective* into this interesting discussion (and perhaps translate it into French for LVMH, now owners of Tiffany)? "An apocryphal quotation"? "Citation apocryphe, attribu?e ? VW"? The secrecy, mystery behind that adjective itself might be operative? "Cryptic" can work too, with an internal rhyme? See also: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha__;!!KGKeukY!wtI7l7LY6XBeFbiXEdsZYXHluuPwAsXi2BIyJPF9vWtsjetHspa40WcpgZuONbG6ZQRJBvw9o1PrVg$ Maybe suggest a (real) quotation about something to do with VW's (family) heirloom jewelry? Anything about beauty, love & purity? Stella's diamonds? ********** Happy New Year to you all - no matter what ?? On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 11:01?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to > send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have > something in mind? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English > Department Editor, > "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to > send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have > something in mind? > > Vara > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut **State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.* > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Mark Hussey > *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:55 PM > *To:* danelljones at bresnan.net > *Cc:* mark.travis at frontier.com ; Neverow, Vara > S. ; Kristin Czarnecki ; > vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk < > info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk>; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com < > vwoolfsociety at gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There > are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible > to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that > quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...! > Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, > could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW > Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an > invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf On > Behalf Of mark. travis--- > > For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW *Complete > Works*, which includes the diaries. > > > > Are we leaning toward an invented quote? > > > > Danell > > > > *From:* Vwoolf *On Behalf Of *mark.travis--- > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM > *To:* Neverow, Vara S. ; Kristin Czarnecki < > keczarnecki at gmail.com> > *Cc:* vwoolf listerve ; > info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > > > FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not > from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people > that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January > 2, 2025 at 11: 24: 50 > > FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not > from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of > people that Woolf corresponded with. > > Mark Scott > Common Reader > > > > On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via > Vwoolf wrote: > > > > > > Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from > the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which > also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: > https: //www. online-literature. com/forums/showthread. > php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote > > Hello, > > > > A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from > the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which > also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: > > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!wtI7l7LY6XBeFbiXEdsZYXHluuPwAsXi2BIyJPF9vWtsjetHspa40WcpgZuONbG6ZQRJBvxZeJ8Puw$ > > > > > Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Kristin > > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have > received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for > Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase > below. I am reaching out to > > Dear Woolves, > > > > Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email > from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants > to find out about permission to use the phrase below. > > I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the > following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. > > *"In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you."* > > Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their > upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission > appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's > works or if there are any rights associated with its use? > > As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and > Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and *might *be > associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own > phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I > suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of *Vita > and Virginia *(or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google > Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of *Virginia Woolf: The > Complete Works *not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle > version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one > instance is part of that phrase.) > > Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the > Woolf societies and the *Miscellany* that I am asking Woolf scholars and > common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more > about the origin and history of the phrase. > > Best, > Vara > > Vara Neverow > > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut **State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.* > > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Thu Jan 2 18:59:03 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 23:59:03 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago: 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.' VW The context behind is, actually "giving". Virginia Woolf had written to Clive Bell (on Tuesday, July 1909) that if he visits her on Thursday, she not only will give him the money she owns him, but also a manuscript, and the conversation of a charming woman. This is more of a teasing and playful message with a glint in one's eye - 'I am not inconsiderate am I' when giving something away, and then the gesture is being explained. Now we want it or not (it may sound too clich?), but love is blind, or can feel like that most of the time. I can imagine a gift box with these letters on it, and then when you open it there is a sparkling surprise. Although, I am not sure if its completely suitable (that's to say for each gift) as without the brief it doesn't seem to be that simple. Yet at least I've got the ball rolling, and maybe other suggestions might be spot on. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 22:18 To: Neverow, Vara S. Cc: vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk ; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Please may I inject an old-fashioned adjective into this interesting discussion (and perhaps translate it into French for LVMH, now owners of Tiffany)? "An apocryphal quotation"? "Citation apocryphe, attribu?e ? VW"? The secrecy, mystery behind that adjective itself might be operative? "Cryptic" can work too, with an internal rhyme? See also: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha__;!!KGKeukY!3x82pJlNnjnwJ2bWqqpkUVCpt526wsFPnyhz9QdqsgCiaX4TRe1aXhZ_g5S3YURYXzMWA-9HTaMxrff66GhILIhjWG1v89d6$ Maybe suggest a (real) quotation about something to do with VW's (family) heirloom jewelry? Anything about beauty, love & purity? Stella's diamonds? ********** Happy New Year to you all - no matter what ?? On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 11:01?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have something in mind? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:55 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net > Cc: mark.travis at frontier.com >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki >; vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...! Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of mark.travis--- via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki > Cc: vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:?24:?50 FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf > wrote: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!3x82pJlNnjnwJ2bWqqpkUVCpt526wsFPnyhz9QdqsgCiaX4TRe1aXhZ_g5S3YURYXzMWA-9HTaMxrff66GhILIhjWEhIJheR$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. 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URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Thu Jan 2 19:14:39 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 00:14:39 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: I made a slight mistake (really, did I?). This is the right quote: ''I am not inconsiderate really am I? If so it is because love is blind.' VW ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 23:59 To: Marie Claire Boisset ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago: 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.' VW The context behind is, actually "giving". Virginia Woolf had written to Clive Bell (on Tuesday, July 1909) that if he visits her on Thursday, she not only will give him the money she owns him, but also a manuscript, and the conversation of a charming woman. This is more of a teasing and playful message with a glint in one's eye - 'I am not inconsiderate am I' when giving something away, and then the gesture is being explained. Now we want it or not (it may sound too clich?), but love is blind, or can feel like that most of the time. I can imagine a gift box with these letters on it, and then when you open it there is a sparkling surprise. Although, I am not sure if its completely suitable (that's to say for each gift) as without the brief it doesn't seem to be that simple. Yet at least I've got the ball rolling, and maybe other suggestions might be spot on. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 22:18 To: Neverow, Vara S. Cc: vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk ; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Please may I inject an old-fashioned adjective into this interesting discussion (and perhaps translate it into French for LVMH, now owners of Tiffany)? "An apocryphal quotation"? "Citation apocryphe, attribu?e ? VW"? The secrecy, mystery behind that adjective itself might be operative? "Cryptic" can work too, with an internal rhyme? See also: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha__;!!KGKeukY!3PXn3OVsAMIJ3xGFNlacYsfOv_2I2w2Eg3tUfUe_y_6XVVkvLmLgpOFlfEau6r2o6GWXvYL-jE6aWSilC4dqLzZogPXIWwv2$ Maybe suggest a (real) quotation about something to do with VW's (family) heirloom jewelry? Anything about beauty, love & purity? Stella's diamonds? ********** Happy New Year to you all - no matter what ?? On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 11:01?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have something in mind? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:55 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net > Cc: mark.travis at frontier.com >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki >; vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...! Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of mark.travis--- via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki > Cc: vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:?24:?50 FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf > wrote: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!3PXn3OVsAMIJ3xGFNlacYsfOv_2I2w2Eg3tUfUe_y_6XVVkvLmLgpOFlfEau6r2o6GWXvYL-jE6aWSilC4dqLzZogG6k5LNs$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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VW ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 23:59 To: Marie Claire Boisset ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago: 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.' VW The context behind is, actually "giving". Virginia Woolf had written to Clive Bell (on Tuesday, July 1909) that if he visits her on Thursday, she not only will give him the money she owns him, but also a manuscript, and the conversation of a charming woman. This is more of a teasing and playful message with a glint in one's eye - 'I am not inconsiderate am I' when giving something away, and then the gesture is being explained. Now we want it or not (it may sound too clich?), but love is blind, or can feel like that most of the time. I can imagine a gift box with these letters on it, and then when you open it there is a sparkling surprise. Although, I am not sure if its completely suitable (that's to say for each gift) as without the brief it doesn't seem to be that simple. Yet at least I've got the ball rolling, and maybe other suggestions might be spot on. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 22:18 To: Neverow, Vara S. Cc: vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk ; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Please may I inject an old-fashioned adjective into this interesting discussion (and perhaps translate it into French for LVMH, now owners of Tiffany)? "An apocryphal quotation"? "Citation apocryphe, attribu?e ? VW"? The secrecy, mystery behind that adjective itself might be operative? "Cryptic" can work too, with an internal rhyme? See also: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha__;!!KGKeukY!1bxMQaRb7_ufm-z5kNEmaVzQbOELtI0XxXZULbRuR3M45Vn3IfUV2bPLOvBypoTm-XwUQwUpPigyb-JIIvT8LweAlPOsyof3$ Maybe suggest a (real) quotation about something to do with VW's (family) heirloom jewelry? Anything about beauty, love & purity? Stella's diamonds? ********** Happy New Year to you all - no matter what ?? On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 11:01?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have something in mind? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:55 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net > Cc: mark.travis at frontier.com >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki >; vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...! Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of mark.travis--- via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki > Cc: vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:?24:?50 FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf > wrote: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!1bxMQaRb7_ufm-z5kNEmaVzQbOELtI0XxXZULbRuR3M45Vn3IfUV2bPLOvBypoTm-XwUQwUpPigyb-JIIvT8LweAlC4FNdPZ$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Thu Jan 2 19:26:18 2025 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 00:26:18 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: Thanks! I'll share that passage with the person. She has confirmed that she is interested in the suggested phrases. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 6:59:03 PM To: Marie Claire Boisset ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago: 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.?' VW The context behind is, actually "giving".? Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago: 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.' VW The context behind is, actually "giving". Virginia Woolf had written to Clive Bell (on Tuesday, July 1909) that if he visits her on Thursday, she not only will give him the money she owns him, but also a manuscript, and the conversation of a charming woman. This is more of a teasing and playful message with a glint in one's eye - 'I am not inconsiderate am I' when giving something away, and then the gesture is being explained. Now we want it or not (it may sound too clich?), but love is blind, or can feel like that most of the time. I can imagine a gift box with these letters on it, and then when you open it there is a sparkling surprise. Although, I am not sure if its completely suitable (that's to say for each gift) as without the brief it doesn't seem to be that simple. Yet at least I've got the ball rolling, and maybe other suggestions might be spot on. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 22:18 To: Neverow, Vara S. Cc: vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk ; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Please may I inject an old-fashioned adjective into this interesting discussion (and perhaps translate it into French for LVMH, now owners of Tiffany)? "An apocryphal quotation"? "Citation apocryphe, attribu?e ? VW"? The secrecy, mystery behind that adjective itself might be operative? "Cryptic" can work too, with an internal rhyme? See also: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha__;!!KGKeukY!3Vak6ELwDFW_vt7Vbu0UeoKmIOTidjzhEuHfNTwWHc7cvYA2oJIN00z_JSragS31qH0a4r5bHoqixNoGmerf3jBieLZB$ Maybe suggest a (real) quotation about something to do with VW's (family) heirloom jewelry? Anything about beauty, love & purity? Stella's diamonds? ********** Happy New Year to you all - no matter what ?? On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 11:01?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have something in mind? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:55 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net > Cc: mark.travis at frontier.com >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki >; vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...! Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of mark.travis--- via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki > Cc: vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:?24:?50 FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf > wrote: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!3Vak6ELwDFW_vt7Vbu0UeoKmIOTidjzhEuHfNTwWHc7cvYA2oJIN00z_JSragS31qH0a4r5bHoqixNoGmerf3ojmlvr3$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jan 3 09:31:18 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 14:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> One of the earliest examples of the misattribution I found ? and it claims to be an official channel ? is this one: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=812328078839544&id=256152117790479&set=a.256210267784664__;!!KGKeukY!2kfKm9gZHM1WGx6_G7GxH-lTsNE7zkPCjNr9uxymnoIdeTW9DYdBUxmOjiL7SFb4GiBfOmCm0R8LyBx0n9eOUGvb$ Virginia Woolf, 22 Feb 2015 ?Just in case you ever foolishly forget; I?m never not thinking of you.? ? Virginia Woolf, Selected Diaries The web page responsible for the post is: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.facebook.com/VirginiaWoolfAuthor__;!!KGKeukY!2kfKm9gZHM1WGx6_G7GxH-lTsNE7zkPCjNr9uxymnoIdeTW9DYdBUxmOjiL7SFb4GiBfOmCm0R8LyBx0n-IGZj4W$ , which says: ?This site is maintained by her publishers Everyman's Library? and gives the email address: vintageanchorpublicity at randomhouse.com. Worrying that even the book?s publisher thinks it?s in there . . . ?? ? In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!2kfKm9gZHM1WGx6_G7GxH-lTsNE7zkPCjNr9uxymnoIdeTW9DYdBUxmOjiL7SFb4GiBfOmCm0R8LyBx0n4UNwq0w$ If nobody minds, I?ll add this one, crediting the Woolfian community. I have a couple of others to investigate: Woolf? misattributions are legion! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Friday, 3 January 2025 at 00:27:30 GMT, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Thanks! I'll share that passage with the person. She has confirmed that she is interested in the suggested phrases. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor,Thanks! I'll share that passage with the person. She has confirmed that she is interested in the suggested phrases.? Best,Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers)Professor,?English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies ProgramManaging Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany?Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples.From: Vwoolf on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 6:59:03 PM To: Marie Claire Boisset ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago: 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.?' VW The context behind is, actually "giving".?Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago:? 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.'?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VW The context behind is, actually "giving".?Virginia Woolf had written to Clive Bell (on Tuesday, July 1909) that if he visits her on Thursday, she not only will give him the money she owns him, but also a manuscript, and the conversation of a charming woman.?? This is more of a teasing and playful message with a glint in one's eye - 'I am not inconsiderate am I'? when giving something away, and then the gesture is being explained. Now we want it or not (it may sound too clich?), but love is blind, or can feel like that most of the time. I can imagine a gift box with these letters on it, and then when you open it there is a sparkling surprise. Although, I am not sure if its completely suitable (that's to say for each gift) as without the brief it doesn't seem to be that simple. Yet at least I've got the ball rolling, and maybe other suggestions might be spot on.? From:?Vwoolf on behalf of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent:?02 January 2025 22:18 To:?Neverow, Vara S. Cc:?vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk ; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject:?Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?Please may I inject an old-fashioned adjective?into this interesting?discussion(and perhaps translate it into French for LVMH, now owners of Tiffany)?? "An apocryphal quotation"? "Citation apocryphe, attribu?e ? VW"?The secrecy, mystery behind that adjective itself might be operative?"Cryptic" can work too, with an internal rhyme? See also:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha__;!!KGKeukY!2kfKm9gZHM1WGx6_G7GxH-lTsNE7zkPCjNr9uxymnoIdeTW9DYdBUxmOjiL7SFb4GiBfOmCm0R8LyBx0n7d6lL3H$ Maybe suggest a (real) quotation about something to do with VW's (family) heirloom jewelry??Anything about beauty, love & purity? Stella's diamonds? **********Happy New Year to you all - no matter what??? | | On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 11:01?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have something in mind?? Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor,The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, PaulinaPaj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From:?Mark Hussey Sent:?Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:55 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net? Cc: mark.travis at frontier.com?; Neverow, Vara S. ; Kristin Czarnecki ; vwoolf listerve ;info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk?;vwoolfsociety at gmail.com? Subject:?Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...!Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf wrote: For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VWComplete Works, which includes the diaries. ? Are we leaning toward an?invented quote? ? Danell ? From:?Vwoolf On Behalf Of mark.travis--- via Vwoolf Sent:?Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM To:?Neverow, Vara S. ; Kristin Czarnecki Cc:?vwoolf listerve ;info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject:?Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... ? FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:?24:?50 FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry.? Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader ? On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf wrote: ? ? Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote Hello, ? A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the?diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: ? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!2kfKm9gZHM1WGx6_G7GxH-lTsNE7zkPCjNr9uxymnoIdeTW9DYdBUxmOjiL7SFb4GiBfOmCm0R8LyBx0n2JGSrBc$ ? Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? ? Cheers, ? Kristin ? On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to Dear Woolves, ? Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget:? I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately.? Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use??? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously andmight be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version ofVita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version ofVirginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and theMiscellany?that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase.? Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor,Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu ? I acknowledge that Southern ConnecticutState University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.?? ? 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At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org : https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Virginia_Woolf*Misattributed__;Iw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk$ > From fred.shapiro at yale.edu Fri Jan 3 09:46:53 2025 From: fred.shapiro at yale.edu (Shapiro, Fred) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 14:46:53 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org : https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!w6BhqsWC2QsGADlVdSJlShnP-FpMbWJDTAEImKxJ2H2CEtAqgTgZblkcAW-K-S7z-ylL0M-RERELMCTktXEqfqtL8hg$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!w6BhqsWC2QsGADlVdSJlShnP-FpMbWJDTAEImKxJ2H2CEtAqgTgZblkcAW-K-S7z-ylL0M-RERELMCTktXEq4rs4OQM$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!w6BhqsWC2QsGADlVdSJlShnP-FpMbWJDTAEImKxJ2H2CEtAqgTgZblkcAW-K-S7z-ylL0M-RERELMCTktXEqNdGQZpA$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Fri Jan 3 10:03:48 2025 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 15:03:48 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0x6xyXuTSSmFdpxl2DHV4bZYMzrOTdy6QD_13XtF38xu1xK6OuhqpNftoFmCCCTGhTxq49lig4e5MBsBjZPxb3eYKDFR$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org >: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!0x6xyXuTSSmFdpxl2DHV4bZYMzrOTdy6QD_13XtF38xu1xK6OuhqpNftoFmCCCTGhTxq49lig4e5MBsBjZPxb5mmMpqW$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0x6xyXuTSSmFdpxl2DHV4bZYMzrOTdy6QD_13XtF38xu1xK6OuhqpNftoFmCCCTGhTxq49lig4e5MBsBjZPxbzntKWDI$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0x6xyXuTSSmFdpxl2DHV4bZYMzrOTdy6QD_13XtF38xu1xK6OuhqpNftoFmCCCTGhTxq49lig4e5MBsBjZPxb-gT6O-Z$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Fri Jan 3 10:18:46 2025 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 15:18:46 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, please! Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Sarah M. Hall Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:31 AM To: stringsOf Light ; Marie Claire Boisset ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Neverow, Vara S. Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... One of the earliest examples of the misattribution I found ? and it claims to be an official channel ? is this one: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=812328078839544&id=256152117790479&set=a.256210267784664__;!!KGKeukY!zyqCOvR7VSqiP8wMeERFxJEfB9N8AoKvn161b48XJ0Bp-_1-ZMDkJ2kcWCu5VXzUEv4Nvps2muIEmQzSCpFw08xjIaoU$ Virginia Woolf, 22 Feb 2015 ?Just in case you ever foolishly forget; I?m never not thinking of you.? ? Virginia Woolf, Selected Diaries The web page responsible for the post is: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.facebook.com/VirginiaWoolfAuthor__;!!KGKeukY!zyqCOvR7VSqiP8wMeERFxJEfB9N8AoKvn161b48XJ0Bp-_1-ZMDkJ2kcWCu5VXzUEv4Nvps2muIEmQzSCpFw09NDZoPr$ , which says: ?This site is maintained by her publishers Everyman's Library? and gives the email address: vintageanchorpublicity at randomhouse.com. Worrying that even the book?s publisher thinks it?s in there . . . In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!zyqCOvR7VSqiP8wMeERFxJEfB9N8AoKvn161b48XJ0Bp-_1-ZMDkJ2kcWCu5VXzUEv4Nvps2muIEmQzSCpFw01q7gJxA$ If nobody minds, I?ll add this one, crediting the Woolfian community. I have a couple of others to investigate: Woolf misattributions are legion! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Friday, 3 January 2025 at 00:27:30 GMT, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: Thanks! I'll share that passage with the person. She has confirmed that she is interested in the suggested phrases. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Thanks! I'll share that passage with the person. She has confirmed that she is interested in the suggested phrases. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department and Women?s and Gender Studies Program Managing Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugusett and Quinnepiac peoples. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 6:59:03 PM To: Marie Claire Boisset ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago: 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.?' VW The context behind is, actually "giving".? Without knowing the brief it's quite hard to come up with something. Yet these are the lines that caught my eyes ages ago: 'I am not inconsiderate am I? If so it is because love is blind.' VW The context behind is, actually "giving". Virginia Woolf had written to Clive Bell (on Tuesday, July 1909) that if he visits her on Thursday, she not only will give him the money she owns him, but also a manuscript, and the conversation of a charming woman. This is more of a teasing and playful message with a glint in one's eye - 'I am not inconsiderate am I' when giving something away, and then the gesture is being explained. Now we want it or not (it may sound too clich?), but love is blind, or can feel like that most of the time. I can imagine a gift box with these letters on it, and then when you open it there is a sparkling surprise. Although, I am not sure if its completely suitable (that's to say for each gift) as without the brief it doesn't seem to be that simple. Yet at least I've got the ball rolling, and maybe other suggestions might be spot on. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf Sent: 02 January 2025 22:18 To: Neverow, Vara S. Cc: vwoolf listerve ; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk ; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Please may I inject an old-fashioned adjective into this interesting discussion (and perhaps translate it into French for LVMH, now owners of Tiffany)? "An apocryphal quotation"? "Citation apocryphe, attribu?e ? VW"? The secrecy, mystery behind that adjective itself might be operative? "Cryptic" can work too, with an internal rhyme? See also: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha__;!!KGKeukY!zyqCOvR7VSqiP8wMeERFxJEfB9N8AoKvn161b48XJ0Bp-_1-ZMDkJ2kcWCu5VXzUEv4Nvps2muIEmQzSCpFw068Z63iF$ Maybe suggest a (real) quotation about something to do with VW's (family) heirloom jewelry? Anything about beauty, love & purity? Stella's diamonds? ********** Happy New Year to you all - no matter what ?? On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 11:01?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: "Attributed" could work for them as a more accurate approach. I'd love to send them a few real quotations about love and the like. Anyone have something in mind? Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Mark Hussey > Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:55 PM To: danelljones at bresnan.net > Cc: mark.travis at frontier.com >; Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki >; vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... It does not appear in any results on a search of the Woolf CD-ROM. There are so many bogus quotes floating around now that it is likely impossible to put this one back in the bag. I do have a set of pretty cards with that quotation on them attributed to VW, a gift from someone...! Perhaps Tiffany, who have admirably attempted to track down permission, could say "attributed to Virginia Woolf"! On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 4:28?PM Danell Jones via Vwoolf > wrote: For what it?s worth, I got zero hits for ?foolishly forget? on Kobo, VW Complete Works, which includes the diaries. Are we leaning toward an invented quote? Danell From: Vwoolf > On Behalf Of mark.travis--- via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2025 12:45 PM To: Neverow, Vara S. >; Kristin Czarnecki > Cc: vwoolf listerve >; info at virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk; vwoolfsociety at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:?24:?50 FWIW, it would seem to me that this would have come from a letter, not from a diary entry. Possible to Vita Sackville West or any number of people that Woolf corresponded with. Mark Scott Common Reader On Thursday, January 2, 2025 at 11:24:50 AM PST, Kristin Czarnecki via Vwoolf > wrote: Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https:?//www.?online-literature.?com/forums/showthread.?php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote Hello, A Google search brings up several sites saying it's a quote from the diaries. Here's a discussion thread from 2017 about the quote which also mentions the diaries but doesn't come up with anything definitive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.online-literature.com/forums/showthread.php?86494-Finding-the-Origin-of-a-Virginia-Woolf-Quote__;!!KGKeukY!zyqCOvR7VSqiP8wMeERFxJEfB9N8AoKvn161b48XJ0Bp-_1-ZMDkJ2kcWCu5VXzUEv4Nvps2muIEmQzSCpFw0_XHtjFM$ Drew Shannon, is this from the diaries? Cheers, Kristin On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 2:19?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > wrote: Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to Dear Woolves, Karen Levenback and I (and the IVWS and the VWSGB) have received an email from someone who indicates that she is working for Tiffany & Co and wants to find out about permission to use the phrase below. I am reaching out to inquire about obtaining permission to use the following quote, which is widely attributed to Virginia Woolf. "In case you ever foolishly forget: I am never not thinking of you." Our client, Tiffany & Co, would like to incorporate this quote in their upcoming campaign and want to ensure we handle any necessary permission appropriately. Could you kindly confirm if this quote is part of Woolf's works or if there are any rights associated with its use? As far as I can determine, the phrase, which shows up on Etsy and Goodreads and so forth, was invented anonymously and might be associated with something Woolf actually wrote (similar to Woolf's own phrasing that became "For most of history, Anonymous was a woman"). I suppose it could also have been drawn from the play or the film version of Vita and Virginia (or from one of the novels on Woolf). In a search on Google Books and Google Scholar and the Kindle version of Virginia Woolf: The Complete Works not one instance of the phrase appeared. (In the Kindle version, "Foolishly" shows up in Woolf's writing only 18 times--and not one instance is part of that phrase.) Regarding this search, I have alerted the person who has contacted the Woolf societies and the Miscellany that I am asking Woolf scholars and common readers to ponder the query. It would be interesting to know more about the origin and history of the phrase. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. 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URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jan 3 11:10:15 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 16:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: <1956879880.14536183.1735920615367@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Edward, done. Sarah On Friday, 3 January 2025 at 14:41:40 GMT, Edward Mendelson wrote: At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org : https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Virginia_Woolf*Misattributed__;Iw!!KGKeukY!3Lo7GMXbgeIdB5uQrTO0rSNwU8Aq_FM-aYeF6A_yT33Uy0Yalh1kSBvRicGn3zCyqZqSwYkJCubV8DwKJRy5STHN$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: >? ? > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/resources/misquotations__;!!KGKeukY!3Lo7GMXbgeIdB5uQrTO0rSNwU8Aq_FM-aYeF6A_yT33Uy0Yalh1kSBvRicGn3zCyqZqSwYkJCubV8DwKJa8J89KF$ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jan 3 11:15:16 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 16:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: <1116223311.14547372.1735920916643@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Fred, but Margaret Irwin's novel was first published in 1928, so it pre-dates this by a few decades. However, the web page didn't include the date, so I've now added this. Sarah On Friday, 3 January 2025 at 14:47:18 GMT, Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf wrote: I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring toI am just now discovering the misattribution page.? Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there.? For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred ShapiroEditorNew Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org : https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!0u4ruwFYRyYljKJp2mgMuCfULY1hZYCPQ0HqXwTDbyGyoKBU73TrehDL-XyAD97H9gftQlT69EWcorW94m39ms5t$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: >???? > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0u4ruwFYRyYljKJp2mgMuCfULY1hZYCPQ0HqXwTDbyGyoKBU73TrehDL-XyAD97H9gftQlT69EWcorW94mOEg7Mg$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0u4ruwFYRyYljKJp2mgMuCfULY1hZYCPQ0HqXwTDbyGyoKBU73TrehDL-XyAD97H9gftQlT69EWcorW94gtfoiHR$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Fri Jan 3 13:47:31 2025 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 18:47:31 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: And...as an offshoot, here is a webpage dedicated to Virginia Woolf puns in pop culture posted on 25 January 2017. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lithub.com/an-incomplete-list-of-virginia-woolf-puns-in-pop-culture/__;!!KGKeukY!x-zqLJTMsa8VSEx2-EtZB27pRxny20tGj5XYTQL2_W8Aguc6DAp85wHqVHcXTt1Z7OByXQqZIexp6OICe45p7LnKdgP0$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://s26162.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/lh-holder-01.jpg__;!!KGKeukY!x-zqLJTMsa8VSEx2-EtZB27pRxny20tGj5XYTQL2_W8Aguc6DAp85wHqVHcXTt1Z7OByXQqZIexp6OICe45p7A9vJwht$ ] An Incomplete List of Virginia Woolf Puns in Pop Culture Virginia Woolf was born 135 years ago today. In addition to being famous for her elegant prose, excellent novels, and contributions to modernism, she seems to be one of the most punned-about authors. From bands to brands to books to cocktails, people love to make Virginia Woolf jokes. Maybe it?s that lupine last name of hers?but [?] lithub.com Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson ; Shapiro, Fred Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!x-zqLJTMsa8VSEx2-EtZB27pRxny20tGj5XYTQL2_W8Aguc6DAp85wHqVHcXTt1Z7OByXQqZIexp6OICe45p7HQ6qyeF$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org >: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!x-zqLJTMsa8VSEx2-EtZB27pRxny20tGj5XYTQL2_W8Aguc6DAp85wHqVHcXTt1Z7OByXQqZIexp6OICe45p7GF9Qy6S$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!x-zqLJTMsa8VSEx2-EtZB27pRxny20tGj5XYTQL2_W8Aguc6DAp85wHqVHcXTt1Z7OByXQqZIexp6OICe45p7Mr9AexA$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!x-zqLJTMsa8VSEx2-EtZB27pRxny20tGj5XYTQL2_W8Aguc6DAp85wHqVHcXTt1Z7OByXQqZIexp6OICe45p7Nah79Ij$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jan 3 14:30:16 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 19:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: <1495153048.9540736.1735932616617@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Vara, this is great stuff! I wish they'd add to it: I'm sure there must be more now. More word-play than puns, strictly speaking, but I can see they need to make it snappy. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Friday, 3 January 2025 at 18:48:15 GMT, Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf wrote: And.?.?.?as an offshoot, here is a webpage dedicated to Virginia Woolf puns in pop culture posted on 25 January 2017. https:?//lithub.?com/an-incomplete-list-of-virginia-woolf-puns-in-pop-culture/ An Incomplete List of Virginia Woolf Puns in PopAnd...as an offshoot, here is a webpage dedicated to Virginia Woolf puns in pop culture posted on 25 January 2017. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lithub.com/an-incomplete-list-of-virginia-woolf-puns-in-pop-culture/__;!!KGKeukY!wKqoGRVi26D50QkPBrhJ5bi6f1czKDHPinIHLGda52pnbmnzUMzyegDQtv8-11A1_Dw6rZoac4fOz751OHGPQtc6$ | | An Incomplete List of Virginia Woolf Puns in Pop CultureVirginia Woolf was born 135 years ago today. In addition to being famous for her elegant prose, excellent novels, and contributions to modernism, she seems to be one of the most punned-about authors. From bands to brands to books to cocktails, people love to make Virginia Woolf jokes. Maybe it?s that lupine last name of hers?but [?]lithub.com | Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor,The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, PaulinaPaj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson ; Shapiro, Fred Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia WoolfRegarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of theVirginia Woolf Miscellany?on page 38:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!wKqoGRVi26D50QkPBrhJ5bi6f1czKDHPinIHLGda52pnbmnzUMzyegDQtv8-11A1_Dw6rZoac4fOz751OK2jDmnt$ Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor,The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, PaulinaPaj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring toI am just now discovering the misattribution page.? Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there.? For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred ShapiroEditorNew Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org : https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!wKqoGRVi26D50QkPBrhJ5bi6f1czKDHPinIHLGda52pnbmnzUMzyegDQtv8-11A1_Dw6rZoac4fOz751OC1sX5Rc$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: >???? > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!wKqoGRVi26D50QkPBrhJ5bi6f1czKDHPinIHLGda52pnbmnzUMzyegDQtv8-11A1_Dw6rZoac4fOz751OPZUIaRd$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!wKqoGRVi26D50QkPBrhJ5bi6f1czKDHPinIHLGda52pnbmnzUMzyegDQtv8-11A1_Dw6rZoac4fOz751ODvvVUwJ$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0vahJ5h6Tx0opvS19Tzif9ObhN_3czDkzj9ivj0VKX3scUG2mLynJYZ278or2CA32QrfQW86per_syfavBEaVv4cWHQ$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org >: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!0vahJ5h6Tx0opvS19Tzif9ObhN_3czDkzj9ivj0VKX3scUG2mLynJYZ278or2CA32QrfQW86per_syfavBEaw-1JLEk$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0vahJ5h6Tx0opvS19Tzif9ObhN_3czDkzj9ivj0VKX3scUG2mLynJYZ278or2CA32QrfQW86per_syfavBEa6NBPgg0$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0vahJ5h6Tx0opvS19Tzif9ObhN_3czDkzj9ivj0VKX3scUG2mLynJYZ278or2CA32QrfQW86per_syfavBEaLdGPF1U$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jan 3 18:08:57 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 23:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: <879626891.14716695.1735945737882@mail.yahoo.com> Ah, I can't take any credit for this one. The most I can lay claim to is transforming a work of scholarship into a soundbite. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Friday, 3 January 2025 at 22:29:51 GMT, Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf wrote: It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson ; Shapiro, Fred Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of theVirginia Woolf Miscellany?on page 38:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!xAWpW1yHQGK9plXMrNOKGrtXqje537pR8wc_WB11ylX0UZ7vfny4vsrFPI8nG4eHdTzXMIGL1j7WaFCs5fxve3h-$ Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor,The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, PaulinaPaj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring toI am just now discovering the misattribution page.? Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there.? For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred ShapiroEditorNew Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org : https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!xAWpW1yHQGK9plXMrNOKGrtXqje537pR8wc_WB11ylX0UZ7vfny4vsrFPI8nG4eHdTzXMIGL1j7WaFCs5bFSNwwq$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: >???? > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!xAWpW1yHQGK9plXMrNOKGrtXqje537pR8wc_WB11ylX0UZ7vfny4vsrFPI8nG4eHdTzXMIGL1j7WaFCs5e_RpPB5$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!xAWpW1yHQGK9plXMrNOKGrtXqje537pR8wc_WB11ylX0UZ7vfny4vsrFPI8nG4eHdTzXMIGL1j7WaFCs5dQ5DKUS$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From annalieseh at gmail.com Fri Jan 3 18:11:30 2025 From: annalieseh at gmail.com (Annaliese Hoehling) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 18:11:30 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] [52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1] ?I keep thinking of you and long?oh Lord how I long?that you would open the door and come in.? And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway. As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most erroneous attributions for. At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars to verify! On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29?PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are > nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred > Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, > January 3, 2025 > It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are > nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! > > Fred Shapiro > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Neverow, Vara S. > *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson < > edward.mendelson at columbia.edu>; Shapiro, Fred > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the > Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance > at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in > Issue 92 of the *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* on page 38: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!xFdZ987V2meaYq5yJx_r2P9lHIqC32jwbZz60R5RjHr5lFAxOLgSDDCiSBfSqeX_c7FdqGmgMxk1u3oqUZld2bc$ > > > Vara > > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut **State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.* > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on > behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson < > edward.mendelson at columbia.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of > quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For > example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," > referring to > I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of > quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For > example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," > referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. > > Fred Shapiro > Editor > New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on behalf of Edward > Mendelson via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to > the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwikiquote.org*2F__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oBBzFjDw*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203701581*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=7GGJMC3IR5LYF2Vl53fePBsVWUd7iW*2BP2hpws1N2JH4*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!xFdZ987V2meaYq5yJx_r2P9lHIqC32jwbZz60R5RjHr5lFAxOLgSDDCiSBfSqeX_c7FdqGmgMxk1u3oqMQIXUYk$ > > >: > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!xFdZ987V2meaYq5yJx_r2P9lHIqC32jwbZz60R5RjHr5lFAxOLgSDDCiSBfSqeX_c7FdqGmgMxk1u3oq7CeETyw$ > > > Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > > > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated > to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart > N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB > website: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!xFdZ987V2meaYq5yJx_r2P9lHIqC32jwbZz60R5RjHr5lFAxOLgSDDCiSBfSqeX_c7FdqGmgMxk1u3oqMWbQFb8$ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!xFdZ987V2meaYq5yJx_r2P9lHIqC32jwbZz60R5RjHr5lFAxOLgSDDCiSBfSqeX_c7FdqGmgMxk1u3oqaVLd3BE$ > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From caroline.webb at newcastle.edu.au Sat Jan 4 14:40:00 2025 From: caroline.webb at newcastle.edu.au (Caroline Webb) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 19:40:00 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A.A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 10:11 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.?[quare, W.?C.?1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.?? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] [52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1] ?I keep thinking of you and long?oh Lord how I long?that you would open the door and come in.? And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway. As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most erroneous attributions for. At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars to verify! On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29?PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > wrote: It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro ________________________________ From: Neverow, Vara S. > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson >; Shapiro, Fred > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0MIR-JxTOuV-YB-aHhj0HS_q5JV5XuOaIgXW6CMGFTL8zGxjd8MWrtzxgmB2k2DffSahX5IHeQzgOBLhcahZnCoRNw314UQlEXY$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org >: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!0MIR-JxTOuV-YB-aHhj0HS_q5JV5XuOaIgXW6CMGFTL8zGxjd8MWrtzxgmB2k2DffSahX5IHeQzgOBLhcahZnCoRNw31pj4xZSE$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf > wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0MIR-JxTOuV-YB-aHhj0HS_q5JV5XuOaIgXW6CMGFTL8zGxjd8MWrtzxgmB2k2DffSahX5IHeQzgOBLhcahZnCoRNw31hNBg4PM$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0MIR-JxTOuV-YB-aHhj0HS_q5JV5XuOaIgXW6CMGFTL8zGxjd8MWrtzxgmB2k2DffSahX5IHeQzgOBLhcahZnCoRNw31uycO11I$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Todd_Avery at uml.edu Sat Jan 4 14:43:56 2025 From: Todd_Avery at uml.edu (Avery, Todd) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 19:43:56 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 7:40:00 PM To: Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A.A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 10:11 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.?[quare, W.?C.?1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.?? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] [52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1] ?I keep thinking of you and long?oh Lord how I long?that you would open the door and come in.? And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway. As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most erroneous attributions for. At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars to verify! On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29?PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > wrote: It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro ________________________________ From: Neverow, Vara S. > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson >; Shapiro, Fred > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!1XxUzDjCloLDtFCoJDosdHZuJckSq8NRHQQks8el4j_E3y7-d_OFk-VguNopNNbeLk06Y4Fsj3gthv5UESokyVNj$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org >: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!1XxUzDjCloLDtFCoJDosdHZuJckSq8NRHQQks8el4j_E3y7-d_OFk-VguNopNNbeLk06Y4Fsj3gthv5UEbf-rKdg$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf > wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1XxUzDjCloLDtFCoJDosdHZuJckSq8NRHQQks8el4j_E3y7-d_OFk-VguNopNNbeLk06Y4Fsj3gthv5UESTmHPCL$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1XxUzDjCloLDtFCoJDosdHZuJckSq8NRHQQks8el4j_E3y7-d_OFk-VguNopNNbeLk06Y4Fsj3gthv5UEXH0LwyM$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Sat Jan 4 14:53:52 2025 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 19:53:52 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: Let's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/__;!!KGKeukY!0-blkWtjsU6GdDXnlyQ1YS3IGrHmy498SMclmAQeyxisac_GAQ0xxe1aXssMwyMzoec0PM91Bzr8uXwyVOzUVCkoLqNn$ A glance at the menu: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0-blkWtjsU6GdDXnlyQ1YS3IGrHmy498SMclmAQeyxisac_GAQ0xxe1aXssMwyMzoec0PM91Bzr8uXwyVOzUVLFXm_dJ$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Avery, Todd via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 2:43 PM To: Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS From: Vwoolf Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 7:40:00 PM To: Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A.A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 10:11 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.?[quare, W.?C.?1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.?? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] [52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1] ?I keep thinking of you and long?oh Lord how I long?that you would open the door and come in.? And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway. As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most erroneous attributions for. At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars to verify! On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29?PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > wrote: It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro ________________________________ From: Neverow, Vara S. > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson >; Shapiro, Fred > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0-blkWtjsU6GdDXnlyQ1YS3IGrHmy498SMclmAQeyxisac_GAQ0xxe1aXssMwyMzoec0PM91Bzr8uXwyVOzUVEgWn6Pq$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org >: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!0-blkWtjsU6GdDXnlyQ1YS3IGrHmy498SMclmAQeyxisac_GAQ0xxe1aXssMwyMzoec0PM91Bzr8uXwyVOzUVPMdS5cg$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf > wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0-blkWtjsU6GdDXnlyQ1YS3IGrHmy498SMclmAQeyxisac_GAQ0xxe1aXssMwyMzoec0PM91Bzr8uXwyVOzUVNVJzY1G$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0-blkWtjsU6GdDXnlyQ1YS3IGrHmy498SMclmAQeyxisac_GAQ0xxe1aXssMwyMzoec0PM91Bzr8uXwyVOzUVApfCn8G$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone know/ have a quotable source on exactly how the text > is divided up among the six voices in The Waves, mathematically, I mean. I > have one source that mentions that Bernard is speaking for more than half > the novel, but I > > Dear All? > > Does anyone know/ have a quotable source on exactly how the text is > divided up among the six voices in The Waves, mathematically, I mean. I > have one source that mentions that Bernard is speaking for more than half > the novel, but I would like to compare the number of flowers each character > cites in relation to their total number of words. Bernard refers to 6 > named flowers for a total of 19 times; Rhoda, on the other hand, is the > flower queen of the novel, citing 11 varieties with a total of 21 > references to named flowers, twice as many as anyone but Bernard.. I have > already started color-coding the Gutenburg text for the various characters, > but it will be tedious indeed to try to cut and paste together each voice?s > total output. I am hoping that some other OC Woolf scholar may already > have done this. > > > > Thanks, > > Elisa > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Woolf sighting in The Guardian today: Stuart Turton: ?I read some Roald Dahl I probably wasn?t ready for? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/jan/10/stuart-turton-i-read-some-roald-dahl-i-probably-wasnt-ready-for?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other__;!!KGKeukY!3gPSCZ1Hf1gzilEJBvX9SbNyAB0HA4axeUTALSdv6a1vK4y5vVojAx83sPUmR7iKRilGgqYycPJoUfc-MAwlmEGf$ From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Sat Jan 11 10:10:44 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 15:10:44 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] purple flowers from Tavistock Square Message-ID: How I longed to see some flowers today. An old post from a stranger with a few photos popped up instead. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1cej695/virgina_woolf_and_purple_flowers/__;!!KGKeukY!wg27uiFmmZua0TqWW_d6jDBrlxyb4SkegYsYWNemuar2Wk2jQPplcrWo8ldt23Abo2Sn2Fn7AiTQBubkXJsksHytLjypZZ7H$ There they were, beautifully arranged, the purple flowers from Tavistock Square. "She was both of them?Antigone and Kitty; here in the book; there in the room; lit up, risen, like a purple flower." VW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anastasiasf at gmail.com Sat Jan 11 13:10:40 2025 From: anastasiasf at gmail.com (Anastasia H) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 10:10:40 -0800 Subject: [Vwoolf] purple flowers from Tavistock Square In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How wonderful and perfect! Thank you for posting this. On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 7:11?AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > How I longed to see some flowers today. An old post from a stranger with a > few photos popped up instead. https: //www. reddit. > com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1cej695/virgina_woolf_and_purple_flowers/ There > they were, beautifully arranged, the purple > How I longed to see some flowers today. An old post from a stranger with a > few photos popped up instead. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.reddit.com/r/GaylorSwift/comments/1cej695/virgina_woolf_and_purple_flowers/__;!!KGKeukY!xpUfFMrUx9i7D89f4I6seGYRc8ykoDgjticCntf0X4Q8-LWz-kllK3nm1K2a1Qeu315O5tSstz5Lwi4AQWmCwrNQ$ > > > There they were, > beautifully arranged, > the purple flowers > from Tavistock Square. > > "She was both of them?Antigone and Kitty; here in the book; there in the > room; lit up, risen, like a purple flower." > VW > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!wbt-53VATPhERugu4k0WETdH8mD-ezqRkX926V32Hdshc5_1S_ul8iM6mRu94fLKJAHMEYr9s3g0cm10GzFnngUukjTqfqY$ Jeremy H -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Mon Jan 13 07:00:13 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 12:00:13 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] commissioned to paint Message-ID: Duncan Grant, Vanessa Bell & Quentin. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/24844943.sussex-village-church-named-among-best-uk/__;!!KGKeukY!2ZtwtVVo5345wCbHB57ALDDZF-ch433RmRtX6uBZOef2BTC62DeAY8B-aLCoY5GthJ-6gtLc0aAShTdGQHBf14BeXqb2QoVc$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Mon Jan 13 08:00:34 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 13:00:34 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!zB-2cyt0Jlbsoy0fhPgTS10HFWFA15SdbbjdzBCrNQZjfn3-bSem34-3Gv69UZd5HyYMT0dXyemXnLxMJLS0lo8MI3Au_F8x$ ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: 11 January 2025 20:57 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles with The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!zB-2cyt0Jlbsoy0fhPgTS10HFWFA15SdbbjdzBCrNQZjfn3-bSem34-3Gv69UZd5HyYMT0dXyemXnLxMJLS0lo8MIzXoIHO0$ Jeremy H -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jan 14 08:34:22 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 13:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> (And 'Orlando' . . .) The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I suppose. Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http:?//www.?nikoletasekulovic.?com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf I hope you?ll like this a little more:?Virginia surrounded by flowers.?There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!w_L18JZX7glxVU09Jcp4ltFwo2hSjm50a5FMeqy8jeNg-j2rX5HizOMT4US5tNCkbD3YVLiaAWlUrcTDPYs1eO33$ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: 11 January 2025 20:57 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway?The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles withThe Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!w_L18JZX7glxVU09Jcp4ltFwo2hSjm50a5FMeqy8jeNg-j2rX5HizOMT4US5tNCkbD3YVLiaAWlUrcTDPaR1DFae$ Jeremy H _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 4:00?AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Duncan Grant, Vanessa Bell & Quentin. https: //www. theargus. co. > uk/news/24844943. sussex-village-church-named-among-best-uk/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > Duncan Grant, > Vanessa Bell > & > Quentin. > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/24844943.sussex-village-church-named-among-best-uk/__;!!KGKeukY!zBd50V1JtMN5fO47OJsWn2FzXf9WgU5bwccD_8T6HS1m5aLZ41n9U-lIaRWJlyHrh1H64_uTyBubjq6A85BcpSmv$ > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Tue Jan 14 17:25:38 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 22:25:38 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway In-Reply-To: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> References: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Totally agree there with you Sarah. E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really captured that well. ________________________________ From: Sarah M. Hall Sent: 14 January 2025 13:34 To: Jeremy Hawthorn ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; stringsOf Light Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway (And 'Orlando' . . .) The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I suppose. Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http:?//www.?nikoletasekulovic.?com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!whsC_AZu7Jowl4GVKHozHeKEeXMsQWHu7Hm3Cz5SdDAfnRgH29btqDIsKHdrOCC4ocI_pLchnVAeWSBLtsF9mQ38HYTf517h$ ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: 11 January 2025 20:57 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles with The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!whsC_AZu7Jowl4GVKHozHeKEeXMsQWHu7Hm3Cz5SdDAfnRgH29btqDIsKHdrOCC4ocI_pLchnVAeWSBLtsF9mQ38HQHPPfGj$ Jeremy H _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_9799.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 85881 bytes Desc: IMG_9799.jpeg URL: From harish.trivedi at gmail.com Wed Jan 15 08:17:48 2025 From: harish.trivedi at gmail.com (Harish Trivedi) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 18:47:48 +0530 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway In-Reply-To: References: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the two dots that *A Passage to India* and *Mrs Dalloway* were published within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) friends. *100 Years of *A Passage to India https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293__;!!KGKeukY!wOZ5nOkGGjTZbpsccovqwSRWg-_UocwwGwWf41tYCO1f1digXAF85vHBq0c2Sibn96NpQc3hrARl5BiWp0xOmTgQ-1mq$ Best wishes. Harish Harish Trivedi On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Totally agree there with you Sarah. E. M. Forster has for example a > distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) > which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really > captured that well. From: Sarah > Totally agree there with you Sarah. > E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile > (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the > drawing it is not quite really captured that well. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Sarah M. Hall > *Sent:* 14 January 2025 13:34 > *To:* Jeremy Hawthorn ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; stringsOf Light > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway > > (And 'Orlando' . . .) > > The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) on > photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I suppose. > > Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! > > Sarah > > > > > Sarah M. Hall > Executive Council > Virginia Woolf Society of GB > Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk > Facebook: @VWSGB > Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB > Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety > > > > > On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > > I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. > There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http: //www. > nikoletasekulovic. com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf > > I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. > There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!wOZ5nOkGGjTZbpsccovqwSRWg-_UocwwGwWf41tYCO1f1digXAF85vHBq0c2Sibn96NpQc3hrARl5BiWp0xOmfMzFKUH$ > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf > on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf > *Sent:* 11 January 2025 20:57 > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway > > The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a > book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia > Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles > with > The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a > book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia > Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles > with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the > front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks > nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a > couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th > century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!wOZ5nOkGGjTZbpsccovqwSRWg-_UocwwGwWf41tYCO1f1digXAF85vHBq0c2Sibn96NpQc3hrARl5BiWp0xOmSf4IRJ9$ > > > Jeremy H > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markh102 at gmail.com Wed Jan 15 10:02:02 2025 From: markh102 at gmail.com (Mark Hussey) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:02:02 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway In-Reply-To: References: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: why do we so often apologize for promoting our own work, I wonder? It's not like publishers spend a lot on getting the word out! Your book looks fascinating. On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 8:18?AM Harish Trivedi via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. Apologies > for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the two dots that > A Passage to India and Mrs Dalloway were published within a year of each > other, by authors > Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. > > Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the > two dots that *A Passage to India* and *Mrs Dalloway* were published > within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) > friends. > > *100 Years of *A Passage to India > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293__;!!KGKeukY!1QbG13D4Nev_rywDe1dZyTrJBneEgEyvGM8MSUIDC3IrrqoNKHSsVaAlZxZL2Dekc3Cywoc_TWTf8lHnFrs5$ > > > Best wishes. > Harish > > > > > Harish Trivedi > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > >> Totally agree there with you Sarah. E. M. Forster has for example a >> distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) >> which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really >> captured that well. From: Sarah >> Totally agree there with you Sarah. >> E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile >> (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the >> drawing it is not quite really captured that well. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Sarah M. Hall >> *Sent:* 14 January 2025 13:34 >> *To:* Jeremy Hawthorn ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu < >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; stringsOf Light >> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway >> >> (And 'Orlando' . . .) >> >> The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) >> on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I >> suppose. >> >> Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! >> >> Sarah >> >> >> >> >> Sarah M. Hall >> Executive Council >> Virginia Woolf Society of GB >> Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >> >> Facebook: @VWSGB >> Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB >> Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: >> >> >> I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. >> There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http: //www. >> nikoletasekulovic. com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf >> >> I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. >> There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!1QbG13D4Nev_rywDe1dZyTrJBneEgEyvGM8MSUIDC3IrrqoNKHSsVaAlZxZL2Dekc3Cywoc_TWTf8liyM37e$ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Vwoolf >> on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf >> *Sent:* 11 January 2025 20:57 >> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway >> >> The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a >> book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia >> Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles >> with >> The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a >> book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia >> Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles >> with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the >> front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks >> nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a >> couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th >> century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!1QbG13D4Nev_rywDe1dZyTrJBneEgEyvGM8MSUIDC3IrrqoNKHSsVaAlZxZL2Dekc3Cywoc_TWTf8gAVnhhj$ >> >> >> Jeremy H >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jan 15 10:21:46 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 15:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway / E. M. Forster and VW In-Reply-To: References: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1518583075.538190.1736954506929@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks, Harish, that looks to be a fascinating book, and I wish you the best of luck with it. The Passage to India/Mrs Dalloway link is a very good area for research, but I think I was one of the first to make the connection, in a (sadly unpublished) university dissertation written in 1985, 'comparing and contrasting' the works of VW and EMF. This was before computers had been properly invented,* so it was all longhand. I photocopied it but lent the photocopy to a flattering friend who never returned it. I've often wondered what I would make of it now, and usually come to the conclusion that it's a mercy it was lost, allowing me to daydream that it would have been a great contribution to the scholarly community. After all, no one can prove differently. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety * Three years earlier, my school had one single computer of which they were inordinately proud. It was kept in a small locked room, and was used only by a couple of specially trained students, who applied to the Head of Sixth Form for the key to the room. I saw The Computer once, from a distance, and never again.?? On Wednesday, 15 January 2025 at 13:18:13 GMT, Harish Trivedi wrote: Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922.? Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the two dots that A Passage to India and Mrs Dalloway were published within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) friends.?? 100 Years of?A Passage to Indiahttps://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293 Best wishes.Harish? ? ?? Harish Trivedi ?? On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: Totally agree there with you Sarah. E.?M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really captured that well. From: SarahTotally agree there with you Sarah.??E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really captured that well.? From: Sarah M. Hall Sent: 14 January 2025 13:34 To: Jeremy Hawthorn ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; stringsOf Light Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway?(And 'Orlando' . . .) The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I suppose. Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http:?//www.?nikoletasekulovic.?com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf I hope you?ll like this a little more:?Virginia surrounded by flowers.?There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!0ZbmCbqLPKeF2COvIAicZYs3B9UyqH1lJvDIcoC5zPjZk7xIF6G0vcaYTw9U4M5J8U3E_ms-wYktLUgzcYdJe5Fh$ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: 11 January 2025 20:57 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway?The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles withThe Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!0ZbmCbqLPKeF2COvIAicZYs3B9UyqH1lJvDIcoC5zPjZk7xIF6G0vcaYTw9U4M5J8U3E_ms-wYktLUgzcfNjvTC6$ Jeremy H _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 8:18?AM Harish Trivedi via Vwoolf > wrote: Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the two dots that A Passage to India and Mrs Dalloway were published within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) friends. 100 Years of A Passage to India https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293__;!!KGKeukY!zkZEl2sRVF60EppSaHHFALkBhHLT3HiOX1wgmmEodZL3ZyCKhHhUVXaUf9An-9cpsJmqNp7MIMgl-pCG_biyfnXIld-Otshn$ Best wishes. Harish Harish Trivedi On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf > wrote: Totally agree there with you Sarah. E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really captured that well. ________________________________ From: Sarah M. Hall > Sent: 14 January 2025 13:34 To: Jeremy Hawthorn >; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; stringsOf Light > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway (And 'Orlando' . . .) The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I suppose. Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf > wrote: I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!zkZEl2sRVF60EppSaHHFALkBhHLT3HiOX1wgmmEodZL3ZyCKhHhUVXaUf9An-9cpsJmqNp7MIMgl-pCG_biyfnXIlRw6sLtn$ ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf > Sent: 11 January 2025 20:57 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!zkZEl2sRVF60EppSaHHFALkBhHLT3HiOX1wgmmEodZL3ZyCKhHhUVXaUf9An-9cpsJmqNp7MIMgl-pCG_biyfnXIlU_-bbfX$ Jeremy H _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From anastasiasf at gmail.com Wed Jan 15 20:21:50 2025 From: anastasiasf at gmail.com (Anastasia H) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2025 17:21:50 -0800 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway In-Reply-To: References: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Your book looks quite interesting! I also perused some of the other categories and collected the names of several other titles of interest. The buyer at my local bookstore is going to enjoy this request. Thank you for bringing this publisher to my attention! Also, I am partial to any publisher with "Swan" in the name, as my own offshoot project is "Black Swan Press": https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.blackswanpress.net/__;!!KGKeukY!0kOky9CF87ZISpfF9IDC1bAbZrFHQ7SEoSyxW4WUb4LwDwgpSie8nzBjzoljNm27fDQHwepx-fqO2rx3n2hdeucz$ On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 5:18?AM Harish Trivedi via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. Apologies > for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the two dots that > A Passage to India and Mrs Dalloway were published within a year of each > other, by authors > Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. > > Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the > two dots that *A Passage to India* and *Mrs Dalloway* were published > within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) > friends. > > *100 Years of *A Passage to India > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293__;!!KGKeukY!0kOky9CF87ZISpfF9IDC1bAbZrFHQ7SEoSyxW4WUb4LwDwgpSie8nzBjzoljNm27fDQHwepx-fqO2rx3n2Wv6fQh$ > > > Best wishes. > Harish > > > > > Harish Trivedi > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > >> Totally agree there with you Sarah. E. M. Forster has for example a >> distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) >> which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really >> captured that well. From: Sarah >> Totally agree there with you Sarah. >> E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile >> (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the >> drawing it is not quite really captured that well. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Sarah M. Hall >> *Sent:* 14 January 2025 13:34 >> *To:* Jeremy Hawthorn ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu < >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; stringsOf Light >> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway >> >> (And 'Orlando' . . .) >> >> The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) >> on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I >> suppose. >> >> Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! >> >> Sarah >> >> >> >> >> Sarah M. Hall >> Executive Council >> Virginia Woolf Society of GB >> Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >> >> Facebook: @VWSGB >> Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB >> Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: >> >> >> I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. >> There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http: //www. >> nikoletasekulovic. com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf >> >> I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. >> There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!0kOky9CF87ZISpfF9IDC1bAbZrFHQ7SEoSyxW4WUb4LwDwgpSie8nzBjzoljNm27fDQHwepx-fqO2rx3nzaE0dLH$ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Vwoolf >> on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf >> *Sent:* 11 January 2025 20:57 >> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway >> >> The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a >> book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia >> Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles >> with >> The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a >> book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia >> Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles >> with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the >> front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks >> nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a >> couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th >> century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!0kOky9CF87ZISpfF9IDC1bAbZrFHQ7SEoSyxW4WUb4LwDwgpSie8nzBjzoljNm27fDQHwepx-fqO2rx3nwPnNTM6$ >> >> >> Jeremy H >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Jan 16 06:44:10 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 11:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Fw: Woolf in Norway In-Reply-To: References: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1836689060.1149870.1737027850323@mail.yahoo.com> The manuscript facsimile is prefaced by two essays written by Helen Wussow and Michael Cunningham. Cost: ?190; in 2019 it was ?180, and the edition is presumably even more limited now. Still steep for private buyers, but libraries may be interested. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Wednesday, 15 January 2025 at 17:54:02 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: Let me promote someone else's work : ) https:?//www.?spbooks.?com/91-mrs-dalloway-9791095457671.?html From: Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Let me promote someone else's work : ) https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.spbooks.com/91-mrs-dalloway-9791095457671.htmlFrom__;!!KGKeukY!2VeStF8PGj3r7UCa7NB55xYoUWNr9o357EX1z9WW86Qac4MD-aOchRLju65cYgXv0LvKxe05lIPlY6FAVltjIw46$ :?Vwoolf on behalf of Mark Hussey via Vwoolf Sent:?15 January 2025 15:02 To:?Harish Trivedi Cc:?vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject:?Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway?why do we so often apologize for promoting our own work, I wonder? It's not like publishers spend a lot on getting the word out!Your book looks fascinating. On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 8:18?AM Harish Trivedi via Vwoolf wrote: Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922.? Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the two dots thatA Passage to India?and Mrs Dalloway?were published within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) friends.?? 100 Years ofA Passage to Indiahttps://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293 Best wishes.Harish? ? ?? Harish Trivedi?? On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: Totally agree there with you Sarah.??E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really captured that well.? From:?Sarah M. Hall Sent:?14 January 2025 13:34 To:?Jeremy Hawthorn ;vwoolf at lists.osu.edu?; stringsOf Light Subject:?Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway?(And 'Orlando' . . .) The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I suppose. Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers.?There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!2VeStF8PGj3r7UCa7NB55xYoUWNr9o357EX1z9WW86Qac4MD-aOchRLju65cYgXv0LvKxe05lIPlY6FAVlaaJ3W8$ From:?Vwoolf on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent:?11 January 2025 20:57 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu? Subject:?[Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway?The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!2VeStF8PGj3r7UCa7NB55xYoUWNr9o357EX1z9WW86Qac4MD-aOchRLju65cYgXv0LvKxe05lIPlY6FAVqDymqkK$ Jeremy H _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you so much for this. ________________________________ From: Maggie Humm Sent: 16 January 2025 14:21 To: stringsOf Light ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: Unearthed poems by Virginia The article in full is in this week's TLS https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.the-tls.co.uk/literature/poetry-literature/hiccoughs-and-angelica-virginia-woolf-sophie-oliver__;!!KGKeukY!0r-2BXNCI4IljaDqCQIdbWV3uEzPKE918ul0ebulkVuR0AUOeqW9TOZnY20U6IgmXlE84jTkLm6rh4vzhN0_qda9LWTfCbcZ$ Best Maggie Sent from Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 2:08 pm To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Unearthed poems by Virginia Long live the language of poetry! 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Thank you so much for this. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Maggie Humm > *Sent:* 16 January 2025 14:21 > *To:* stringsOf Light ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > > *Subject:* Re: Unearthed poems by Virginia > > The article in full is in this week's TLS > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.the-tls.co.uk/literature/poetry-literature/hiccoughs-and-angelica-virginia-woolf-sophie-oliver__;!!KGKeukY!zhag3eupQLzkIbUWmXp16CclhS8f8bMsunZmghBhqB5mBZ_ER7ySNS03gFVuuvPhpESN8KvWpVcLNkg7e8xA$ > > Best > Maggie > > > Sent from Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on behalf > of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2025 2:08 pm > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Unearthed poems by Virginia > > Long live the language of poetry! (I am so excited about this) https: > //www. miragenews. > com/unearthed-poems-reveal-virginia-woolfs-lighter-1392020/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > *This email is from an external source. Ensure you trust the sender before > opening any attachments or clicking on any links.* > ------------------------------ > Long live the language of poetry! > > (I am so excited about this) > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.miragenews.com/unearthed-poems-reveal-virginia-woolfs-lighter-1392020/__;!!KGKeukY!zhag3eupQLzkIbUWmXp16CclhS8f8bMsunZmghBhqB5mBZ_ER7ySNS03gFVuuvPhpESN8KvWpVcLNgXS96t0$ > > > > > > > > > > [image: Facebook] > > > > > > > > The information transmitted in this e-mail and its contents is intended > only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended > addressee you are prohibited from storing, copying or using the information > in any way. This email has been checked for viruses and malware but no > liability is accepted by UEL for any damage caused by any virus or malware > that may be transmitted by this email. > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0.png Type: image/png Size: 227599 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 715 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 567 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best wishes Sophie Oliver Senior Lecturer in Modernism, University of Liverpool Dr Sophie Oliver (she/her) Senior Lecturer in Modernism | University of Liverpool| Department of English | School of Arts | 19?23 Abercromby Square, room 245 | Liverpool L69 7ZR ~~~~~~~ Listen to me on Radio 3 reading my essay about Jean Rhys, a dress she owned that now belongs to me, and ambivalent motherhood. Documentary feature: ?At Home with Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harish.trivedi at gmail.com Fri Jan 17 10:16:01 2025 From: harish.trivedi at gmail.com (Harish Trivedi) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 20:46:01 +0530 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway / E. M. Forster and VW In-Reply-To: <1518583075.538190.1736954506929@mail.yahoo.com> References: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> <1518583075.538190.1736954506929@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Sarah, for sharing this, and for your good wishes. Do try and recover your dissertation; perhaps your university will let you photocopy what you deposited there. I too have a fortunately unpublished and grossly rambly Ph D dissertation on VW which I completed at the University of Wales in 1975. But a small section of it did get into print as a chapter titled "Forster and Virginia Woolf: the Critical Friends" in the Forster birth-centenary volume edited by Das and Beer (Macmillan 1979). How long ago it all seems, when VW was not yet regarded as basically a feminist! Harish Trivedi On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 20:51, Sarah M. Hall wrote: > Thanks, Harish, that looks to be a fascinating book, and I wish you the > best of luck with it. The *Passage to India*/*Mrs Dalloway* link is a > very good area for research, but I think I was one of the first to make the > connection, in a (sadly unpublished) university dissertation written in > 1985, 'comparing and contrasting' the works of VW and EMF. This was before > computers had been properly invented,* so it was all longhand. I > photocopied it but lent the photocopy to a flattering friend who never > returned it. I've often wondered what I would make of it now, and usually > come to the conclusion that it's a mercy it was lost, allowing me to > daydream that it would have been a great contribution to the scholarly > community. After all, no one can prove differently. [image: Emoji] > > Sarah > > > > Sarah M. Hall > Executive Council > Virginia Woolf Society of GB > Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk > Facebook: @VWSGB > Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB > Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety > > * Three years earlier, my school had one single computer of which they > were inordinately proud. It was kept in a small locked room, and was used > only by a couple of specially trained students, who applied to the Head of > Sixth Form for the key to the room. I saw The Computer once, from a > distance, and never again. > > > > > On Wednesday, 15 January 2025 at 13:18:13 GMT, Harish Trivedi < > harish.trivedi at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. > > Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the > two dots that *A Passage to India* and *Mrs Dalloway* were published > within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) > friends. > > *100 Years of *A Passage to India > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293__;!!KGKeukY!woad06U7fx_vP6-CMEGLpzHClcuUl-QZSDfICZmIQK-JF8oh2sfgDyPgEZt9zIUXty6dBxYNjsFeBQYI35Sl5oflBiNq$ > > Best wishes. > Harish > > > > > Harish Trivedi > > > > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > Totally agree there with you Sarah. E. M. Forster has for example a > distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) > which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really > captured that well. From: Sarah > Totally agree there with you Sarah. > E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile > (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the > drawing it is not quite really captured that well. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Sarah M. Hall > *Sent:* 14 January 2025 13:34 > *To:* Jeremy Hawthorn ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; stringsOf Light > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway > > (And 'Orlando' . . .) > > The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) on > photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I suppose. > > Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! > > Sarah > > > > > Sarah M. Hall > Executive Council > Virginia Woolf Society of GB > Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk > Facebook: @VWSGB > Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB > Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety > > > > > On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > > I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. > There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http: //www. > nikoletasekulovic. com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf > > I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. > There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!woad06U7fx_vP6-CMEGLpzHClcuUl-QZSDfICZmIQK-JF8oh2sfgDyPgEZt9zIUXty6dBxYNjsFeBQYI35Sl5pUuDOrT$ > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf > on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf > *Sent:* 11 January 2025 20:57 > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway > > The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a > book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia > Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles > with > The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a > book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia > Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles > with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the > front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks > nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a > couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th > century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!woad06U7fx_vP6-CMEGLpzHClcuUl-QZSDfICZmIQK-JF8oh2sfgDyPgEZt9zIUXty6dBxYNjsFeBQYI35Sl5la_lawf$ > > > Jeremy H > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(I am so excited about this) https: > //www. miragenews. > com/unearthed-poems-reveal-virginia-woolfs-lighter-1392020/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > *This email is from an external source. Ensure you trust the sender before > opening any attachments or clicking on any links.* > ------------------------------ > Long live the language of poetry! > > (I am so excited about this) > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.miragenews.com/unearthed-poems-reveal-virginia-woolfs-lighter-1392020/__;!!KGKeukY!2ZgGp5BHt1nKeg6dVZIobOVdpJNBEgG-58Xrr2RJh1TiHLLPYXcGsf538AOB0VNJRDlALNXjWWCCuof_bdEY$ > > > > > > > > > > [image: Facebook] > > > > > > > > The information transmitted in this e-mail and its contents is intended > only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended > addressee you are prohibited from storing, copying or using the information > in any way. This email has been checked for viruses and malware but no > liability is accepted by UEL for any damage caused by any virus or malware > that may be transmitted by this email. > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0.png Type: image/png Size: 227599 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 715 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 567 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9: > 36 AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: Amazing > Maggie. > The writer of the linked article says Woolf "often dismissed poetry as an > art form"... where do they get these people?! > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:36?AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > >> Amazing Maggie. Thank you so much for this. From: Maggie Humm > uel. ac. uk> Sent: 16 January 2025 14: 21 To: stringsOf Light >> ; vwoolf@ lists. osu. edu > lists. osu. edu> Subject: Re: Unearthed >> Amazing Maggie. Thank you so much for this. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Maggie Humm >> *Sent:* 16 January 2025 14:21 >> *To:* stringsOf Light ; >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> *Subject:* Re: Unearthed poems by Virginia >> >> The article in full is in this week's TLS >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.the-tls.co.uk/literature/poetry-literature/hiccoughs-and-angelica-virginia-woolf-sophie-oliver__;!!KGKeukY!yL5e16JYXcxfTzsNAvuLsH_5Qb-O3OasOWlf4rtZh1fAx8phMqqsIcCdQgDdnd6_tOLEHH4NF5NRqb64GKHV9Fis$ >> >> Best >> Maggie >> >> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Vwoolf on behalf >> of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2025 2:08 pm >> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Unearthed poems by Virginia >> >> Long live the language of poetry! (I am so excited about this) https: >> //www. miragenews. >> com/unearthed-poems-reveal-virginia-woolfs-lighter-1392020/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> *This email is from an external source. Ensure you trust the sender >> before opening any attachments or clicking on any links.* >> ------------------------------ >> Long live the language of poetry! >> >> (I am so excited about this) >> >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.miragenews.com/unearthed-poems-reveal-virginia-woolfs-lighter-1392020/__;!!KGKeukY!yL5e16JYXcxfTzsNAvuLsH_5Qb-O3OasOWlf4rtZh1fAx8phMqqsIcCdQgDdnd6_tOLEHH4NF5NRqb64GNqRZMRp$ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: Facebook] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The information transmitted in this e-mail and its contents is intended >> only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended >> addressee you are prohibited from storing, copying or using the information >> in any way. This email has been checked for viruses and malware but no >> liability is accepted by UEL for any damage caused by any virus or malware >> that may be transmitted by this email. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0.png Type: image/png Size: 227599 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 715 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's a brief history of the imprint, with shades of the "Oriental," postcolonial, and globalizing discourses. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient_Blackswan__;!!KGKeukY!wfyMz6FfaX2mQj3scNsIiEjMPLYXE-Lc9yVhNGME0En8gk_DAxWR_xdsKzo4LOfGwLyFutgSLug0Z-uNKXX7yFhuFq1X$ Incidentally, they have recently launched a series of edited volumes titled *100 Years of .... *Before my own volume on *A *Passage* to India, *they had brought out *100 Years of *The Waste Land, to which I too was a contributor. Following liberalization in the 1990s, we now have Penguin India, HarperCollins, Rouledge, and Hachette etc publishing from India, with different degrees of affiliation to the parent international brands. The oldest is OUP India (since 1912?), followed I think by Macmillan and CUP. India has for many years been the third largest publisher of books in the English language -- though less than 10% of Indians actually (can) read books in English. The largest-selling newspapers are in Hindi as are the most popular TV news channels. No work of VW seems to have been translated into Hindi, except *A Room of One's Own. * Harish Trivedi On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 at 06:52, Anastasia H wrote: > Your book looks quite interesting! I also perused some of the other > categories and collected the names of several other titles of interest. > > The buyer at my local bookstore is going to enjoy this request. Thank you > for bringing this publisher to my attention! > > Also, I am partial to any publisher with "Swan" in the name, as my own > offshoot project is "Black Swan Press": > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.blackswanpress.net/__;!!KGKeukY!wfyMz6FfaX2mQj3scNsIiEjMPLYXE-Lc9yVhNGME0En8gk_DAxWR_xdsKzo4LOfGwLyFutgSLug0Z-uNKXX7yIRZcb9p$ > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 5:18?AM Harish Trivedi via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > >> Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. >> Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the two >> dots that A Passage to India and Mrs Dalloway were published within a year >> of each other, by authors >> Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. >> >> Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the >> two dots that *A Passage to India* and *Mrs Dalloway* were published >> within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) >> friends. >> >> *100 Years of *A Passage to India >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293__;!!KGKeukY!wfyMz6FfaX2mQj3scNsIiEjMPLYXE-Lc9yVhNGME0En8gk_DAxWR_xdsKzo4LOfGwLyFutgSLug0Z-uNKXX7yKfbtEwz$ >> >> >> Best wishes. >> Harish >> >> >> >> >> Harish Trivedi >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: >> >>> Totally agree there with you Sarah. E. M. Forster has for example a >>> distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) >>> which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really >>> captured that well. From: Sarah >>> Totally agree there with you Sarah. >>> E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in profile >>> (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in the >>> drawing it is not quite really captured that well. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Sarah M. Hall >>> *Sent:* 14 January 2025 13:34 >>> *To:* Jeremy Hawthorn ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu < >>> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; stringsOf Light >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway >>> >>> (And 'Orlando' . . .) >>> >>> The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) >>> on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I >>> suppose. >>> >>> Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! >>> >>> Sarah >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sarah M. Hall >>> Executive Council >>> Virginia Woolf Society of GB >>> Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >>> >>> Facebook: @VWSGB >>> Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB >>> Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < >>> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. >>> There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http: //www. >>> nikoletasekulovic. com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf >>> >>> I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. >>> There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. >>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!wfyMz6FfaX2mQj3scNsIiEjMPLYXE-Lc9yVhNGME0En8gk_DAxWR_xdsKzo4LOfGwLyFutgSLug0Z-uNKXX7yLyuNUAZ$ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Vwoolf >> hotmail.co.uk at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf < >>> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> >>> *Sent:* 11 January 2025 20:57 >>> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >>> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway >>> >>> The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a >>> book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia >>> Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles >>> with >>> The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a >>> book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia >>> Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles >>> with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the >>> front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks >>> nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a >>> couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th >>> century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. >>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!wfyMz6FfaX2mQj3scNsIiEjMPLYXE-Lc9yVhNGME0En8gk_DAxWR_xdsKzo4LOfGwLyFutgSLug0Z-uNKXX7yPwDMxsf$ >>> >>> >>> Jeremy H >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Vwoolf mailing list >>> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >>> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Vwoolf mailing list >>> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >>> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Vwoolf mailing list >> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ozma at sover.net Fri Jan 17 15:08:44 2025 From: ozma at sover.net (Gretchen Gerzina) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:08:44 -0500 Subject: [Vwoolf] Vwoolf Digest, Vol 152, Issue 31--Woolf poems Message-ID: <5ADB5314-41B7-4A54-810C-311B3C8A47F2@sover.net> !-------------------------------------------------------------------| This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. |-------------------------------------------------------------------! The discovery of the poems has also made it onto the NPR (National Public Radio) website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.npr.org/2025/01/17/nx-s1-5260964/virginia-woolf-poems-niece-nephew__;!!KGKeukY!20xdQYne2Av39OMd-snPlRBjhG6uVm3Kbj5OT_z5MI2JlUxSEAQhFIHMz7JIyGlIvSEaLyJZE249AJ4$ Ellen, the article is in the latest TLS, dated 17 January 2025. I read it online, so don't have a page number. ?Gretchen Holbrook Gerzina Today's Topics: 1. Re: Unearthed poems by Virginia (Ellen Moody) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 11:55:07 -0500 From: Ellen Moody > To: Mark Hussey > Cc: "vwoolf at lists.osu.edu " > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Unearthed poems by Virginia Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I get the TLS as a slim paper newsletter/journal each week. I am likeliest to find whatever it is if someone would supply the date and volume of the issue, and if possible the pages Ellen Moody On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: > The writer of the linked article says Woolf "often dismissed poetry as an > art form". . . where do they get these people?! On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9: > 36 AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: Amazing > Maggie. > The writer of the linked article says Woolf "often dismissed poetry as an > art form"... where do they get these people?! > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:36?AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > wrote: > >> Amazing Maggie. Thank you so much for this. From: Maggie Humm > uel. ac. uk> Sent: 16 January 2025 14: 21 To: stringsOf Light >> ; vwoolf@ lists. osu. edu > lists. osu. edu> Subject: Re: Unearthed >> Amazing Maggie. Thank you so much for this. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Maggie Humm > >> *Sent:* 16 January 2025 14:21 >> *To:* stringsOf Light >; >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > >> *Subject:* Re: Unearthed poems by Virginia >> >> The article in full is in this week's TLS >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.the-tls.co.uk/literature/poetry-literature/hiccoughs-and-angelica-virginia-woolf-sophie-oliver__;!!KGKeukY!yL5e16JYXcxfTzsNAvuLsH_5Qb-O3OasOWlf4rtZh1fAx8phMqqsIcCdQgDdnd6_tOLEHH4NF5NRqb64GKHV9Fis$ >> > >> Best >> Maggie >> >> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS >> > >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Vwoolf > on behalf >> of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf > >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2025 2:08 pm >> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > >> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Unearthed poems by Virginia >> >> Long live the language of poetry! (I am so excited about this) https: >> //www. miragenews. >> com/unearthed-poems-reveal-virginia-woolfs-lighter-1392020/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> *This email is from an external source. 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In-Reply-To: References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> Message-ID: At the Tavistock Hotel I've been waiting for you to come today, but couldn?t find you ??. As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first time, all I could see in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf?s profile, as a proof that she is waiting eagerly for you all. One day, some day, soon to come. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 19:53 To: Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling ; Avery, Todd Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Let's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar: https:?//www.?imperialhotels.?co.?uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/ A glance at the menu: https:?//www.?imperialhotels.?co.?uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.?pdf Let's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/__;!!KGKeukY!1mAu3jKcAcUQi1E7_RZyZOpqh-2qiUI8qMsgQaYwELHv8Kho778GFIYRgyytFtmAkzTKLPY6TBMgEqsfudlqwCiy32O4xmHr$ A glance at the menu: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!1mAu3jKcAcUQi1E7_RZyZOpqh-2qiUI8qMsgQaYwELHv8Kho778GFIYRgyytFtmAkzTKLPY6TBMgEqsfudlqwCiy36yODZAQ$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Avery, Todd via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 2:43 PM To: Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS From: Vwoolf Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 7:40:00 PM To: Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A.A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 10:11 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.?[quare, W.?C.?1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.?? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] [52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1] ?I keep thinking of you and long?oh Lord how I long?that you would open the door and come in.? And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway. As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most erroneous attributions for. At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars to verify! On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29?PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > wrote: It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro ________________________________ From: Neverow, Vara S. > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson >; Shapiro, Fred > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!1mAu3jKcAcUQi1E7_RZyZOpqh-2qiUI8qMsgQaYwELHv8Kho778GFIYRgyytFtmAkzTKLPY6TBMgEqsfudlqwCiy374cl87Z$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org >: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!1mAu3jKcAcUQi1E7_RZyZOpqh-2qiUI8qMsgQaYwELHv8Kho778GFIYRgyytFtmAkzTKLPY6TBMgEqsfudlqwCiy34WpHhgx$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf > wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1mAu3jKcAcUQi1E7_RZyZOpqh-2qiUI8qMsgQaYwELHv8Kho778GFIYRgyytFtmAkzTKLPY6TBMgEqsfudlqwCiy31A8Arit$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1mAu3jKcAcUQi1E7_RZyZOpqh-2qiUI8qMsgQaYwELHv8Kho778GFIYRgyytFtmAkzTKLPY6TBMgEqsfudlqwCiy3zVG9qvs$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Friday, 17 January 2025 at 21:01:07 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: At the Tavistock Hotel I've been waiting for you to come today, but couldn?t find you ??. As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first time, all I could see in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf?s profile, as a proof that she is waiting eagerlyAt the Tavistock Hotel I've been waiting for you to come today, but couldn?t find you ??. As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first time, ?all I could see in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf?s profile, as a proof that she is waiting eagerly for you all.?One day, some day,?soon to come.? From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 19:53 To: Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling ; Avery, Todd Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?Let's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar: https:?//www.?imperialhotels.?co.?uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/ A glance at the menu: https:?//www.?imperialhotels.?co.?uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.?pdfLet's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/__;!!KGKeukY!0M1DsGvb7em_gEGtOX9iGRlXVNDXwFlSGVhjUi4UVQlwlUkkxH6HjUBHeHpAlpLNEa1fMfPyYE7PH0SEQfxVYkG5$ A glance at the menu:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0M1DsGvb7em_gEGtOX9iGRlXVNDXwFlSGVhjUi4UVQlwlUkkxH6HjUBHeHpAlpLNEa1fMfPyYE7PH0SEQYzVTZDL$ Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor,The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, PaulinaPaj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Avery, Todd via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 2:43 PM To: Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS From: Vwoolf Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Vwoolf on behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 7:40:00 PM To: Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A.A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web!Caroline?From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 10:11 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.?[quare, W.?C.?1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.?? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929]The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] [52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1] ?I keep thinking of you and long?oh Lord how I long?that you would open the door and come in.? And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway. As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most erroneous attributions for. At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars to verify! On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29?PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf wrote: It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson ; Shapiro, Fred Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of theVirginia Woolf Miscellany?on page 38:?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0M1DsGvb7em_gEGtOX9iGRlXVNDXwFlSGVhjUi4UVQlwlUkkxH6HjUBHeHpAlpLNEa1fMfPyYE7PH0SEQUYhY9YM$ Vara Vara Neverow(she/her/hers) Professor, English DepartmentEditor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory?of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.?? Recent Publications: Lead editor,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984,Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources?(Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor,The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature?(Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, PaulinaPaj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring toI am just now discovering the misattribution page.? Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there.? For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred ShapiroEditorNew Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) From: Vwoolf on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not...?At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions atwikiquote.org : https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!0M1DsGvb7em_gEGtOX9iGRlXVNDXwFlSGVhjUi4UVQlwlUkkxH6HjUBHeHpAlpLNEa1fMfPyYE7PH0SEQRk_NrMD$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf wrote: >???? > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0M1DsGvb7em_gEGtOX9iGRlXVNDXwFlSGVhjUi4UVQlwlUkkxH6HjUBHeHpAlpLNEa1fMfPyYE7PH0SEQcAtvxqz$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0M1DsGvb7em_gEGtOX9iGRlXVNDXwFlSGVhjUi4UVQlwlUkkxH6HjUBHeHpAlpLNEa1fMfPyYE7PH0SEQZ0lAXNP$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From louisa.albani at gmail.com Sat Jan 18 04:57:41 2025 From: louisa.albani at gmail.com (Louisa Albani) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 09:57:41 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... / Tavistock Hotel In-Reply-To: <319503573.2435861.1737192864995@mail.yahoo.com> References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> <319503573.2435861.1737192864995@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello there If you are still in Tavistock Square on Saturday 25 January, or indeed for anyone out there, why not celebrate Virginia Woolf?s birthday with, amongst other things, Night Bird Press?s pamphlet publication of *Virginia Woolf in the City: Oxford Street Tide, *inspired by her ?love letters? to London ? ?Oxford Street Tide? & ?Street Haunting? ? and including written contributions by Mark Hussey and Derek Ryan. I am Louisa Albani, an artist and small press publisher, and over the last 4 years I have published 5 Bloomsbury pamphlets - all available at Charleston, London Review Bookshop, Much Ado Books and many other independent retailers. Here is a website link to the pamphlet: Virginia Woolf in the City: Oxford Street Tide The pamphlet will be available to look at and purchase at both the London Review Bookshop (Bury Place, just off Great Russell Street) and Poetry Pharmacy, upstairs from Lush on Oxford Street - next Saturday afternoon. Poetry Pharmacy will also have a few artworks on display from the pamphlet. There is also a Virginia Woolf Winter Walk for 25 January - all tickets are now sold, but there will be another walk in May in collaboration with Poetry Pharmacy. Thank you for your time! Best wishes Louisa On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 9:34?AM Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Give it a few weeks and you'll come across the Executive Council of the > VWSGB, there for their quarterly meeting. Have you visited the (ahem) > facilities? Also a VW presence in this most intimate of settings. Sarah > Sarah M. Hall Executive Council > Give it a few weeks and you'll come across the Executive Council of the > VWSGB, there for their quarterly meeting. > > Have you visited the (ahem) facilities? Also a VW presence in this most > intimate of settings. > > Sarah > > > > Sarah M. Hall > Executive Council > Virginia Woolf Society of GB > Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk > Facebook: @VWSGB > Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB > Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety > > > > > On Friday, 17 January 2025 at 21:01:07 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > > At the Tavistock Hotel I've been waiting for you to come today, but > couldn?t find you ??. As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first > time, all I could see in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf?s profile, as a > proof that she is waiting eagerly > At the Tavistock Hotel > I've been waiting for you to come today, but couldn?t find you ??. > > As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first time, all I could see > in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf?s profile, as a proof that she is > waiting eagerly for you all. > One day, some day, > soon to come. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf > on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf > *Sent:* 04 January 2025 19:53 > *To:* Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling > via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling < > annalieseh at gmail.com>; Avery, Todd > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > Let's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar: https: //www. > imperialhotels. co. > uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/ A > glance at the menu: https: //www. imperialhotels. co. > uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21. pdf > Let's go to the Tavistock! > > A view of the bar: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/__;!!KGKeukY!1GMb9HEbOBuF5uN2YzBO2WxXl_D-oQULMZSxd3EFiUxyXkfswEbW07bafdK1mUXuoUsTtnP0k9gq82CmqFX5teZSnRo$ > > > A glance at the menu: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!1GMb9HEbOBuF5uN2YzBO2WxXl_D-oQULMZSxd3EFiUxyXkfswEbW07bafdK1mUXuoUsTtnP0k9gq82CmqFX5xi32lf0$ > > > Vara > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut **State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.* > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on behalf of Avery, Todd > via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Saturday, January 4, 2025 2:43 PM > *To:* Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling > via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling < > annalieseh at gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of > Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock > Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS From: Vwoolf edu@ lists. osu. edu> > Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of > Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock > Hotel. T > > Get Outlook for iOS > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on > behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Saturday, January 4, 2025 7:40:00 PM > *To:* Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese > Hoehling > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show > up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via > Vwoolf Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show > up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via > Vwoolf > Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A.A. Milne that show > up as life-affirming quotes on the web! > Caroline > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese > Hoehling via Vwoolf > *Sent:* 04 January 2025 10:11 > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday > night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S. [quare, W. C. 1] "I?ve been > thinking of you all the time, dear Honey. ? 1987: To V. Sackville-West > Monday [28 January 1929] > The closest I've found in the Letters: > > 1847: To V. Sackville-West > Sunday night [22 January 1928] > 52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1] > > "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.? > > 1987: To V. Sackville-West > Monday [28 January 1929] > [52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1] > > ?I keep thinking of you and long?oh Lord how I long?that you would open > the door and come in.? > > And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, > based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway. > > As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company > (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the > thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because > "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't > make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most > erroneous attributions for. > > At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of > scholars to verify! > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29?PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are > nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred > Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, > January 3, 2025 > It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are > nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! > > Fred Shapiro > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Neverow, Vara S. > *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson < > edward.mendelson at columbia.edu>; Shapiro, Fred > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the > Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance > at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in > Issue 92 of the *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* on page 38: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!1GMb9HEbOBuF5uN2YzBO2WxXl_D-oQULMZSxd3EFiUxyXkfswEbW07bafdK1mUXuoUsTtnP0k9gq82CmqFX5jxOyfus$ > > > Vara > > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut **State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.* > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on > behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu ; Edward Mendelson < > edward.mendelson at columbia.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of > quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For > example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," > referring to > I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of > quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For > example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," > referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. > > Fred Shapiro > Editor > New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf on behalf of Edward > Mendelson via Vwoolf > *Sent:* Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... > > At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to > the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org > > < > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwikiquote.org*2F__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oBBzFjDw*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203701581*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=7GGJMC3IR5LYF2Vl53fePBsVWUd7iW*2BP2hpws1N2JH4*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1GMb9HEbOBuF5uN2YzBO2WxXl_D-oQULMZSxd3EFiUxyXkfswEbW07bafdK1mUXuoUsTtnP0k9gq82CmqFX53SJPE-k$ > > >: > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!1GMb9HEbOBuF5uN2YzBO2WxXl_D-oQULMZSxd3EFiUxyXkfswEbW07bafdK1mUXuoUsTtnP0k9gq82CmqFX5nzVI9Mc$ > > > Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > > > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > > > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated > to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart > N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB > website: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1GMb9HEbOBuF5uN2YzBO2WxXl_D-oQULMZSxd3EFiUxyXkfswEbW07bafdK1mUXuoUsTtnP0k9gq82CmqFX5RNZO9N0$ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1GMb9HEbOBuF5uN2YzBO2WxXl_D-oQULMZSxd3EFiUxyXkfswEbW07bafdK1mUXuoUsTtnP0k9gq82CmqFX58RH1cd0$ > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -- *Louisa Amelia Albani* Artist and small press publisher Night Bird Press -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Sat Jan 18 07:11:51 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2025 12:11:51 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... / Tavistock Hotel In-Reply-To: <319503573.2435861.1737192864995@mail.yahoo.com> References: <454158111.9108199.1735847099030@mail.yahoo.com> <017c01db5d5d$3ac39700$b04ac500$@bresnan.net> <611020274.14459018.1735914678775@mail.yahoo.com> <7F44EDCA-82EC-409A-93DE-7C1AFBC0514F@columbia.edu> <319503573.2435861.1737192864995@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I did indeed :) and you may find it funny when I tell you that as soon as I stepped into this specifically sacred facility I had to take my phone out to take a photo I'll attach it here for those who are interested to see its decorated wall, to take a quick peekaboo through its open door. ________________________________ From: Sarah M. Hall Sent: 18 January 2025 09:34 To: Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf ; Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling ; Avery, Todd ; Neverow, Vara S. ; stringsOf Light Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... / Tavistock Hotel Give it a few weeks and you'll come across the Executive Council of the VWSGB, there for their quarterly meeting. Have you visited the (ahem) facilities? Also a VW presence in this most intimate of settings. Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Friday, 17 January 2025 at 21:01:07 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: At the Tavistock Hotel I've been waiting for you to come today, but couldn?t find you ??. As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first time, all I could see in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf?s profile, as a proof that she is waiting eagerly At the Tavistock Hotel I've been waiting for you to come today, but couldn?t find you ??. As I stepped inside the restaurant for the first time, all I could see in the big mirror was Virginia Woolf?s profile, as a proof that she is waiting eagerly for you all. One day, some day, soon to come. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 19:53 To: Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling ; Avery, Todd Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Let's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar: https:?//www.?imperialhotels.?co.?uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/ A glance at the menu: https:?//www.?imperialhotels.?co.?uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.?pdf Let's go to the Tavistock! A view of the bar: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/hotels/tavistock-hotel/restaurants-bars/the-woolf--whistle/57-7/__;!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKZh3VwrL$ A glance at the menu: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.imperialhotels.co.uk/uploads/documents/GeneralDocuments/The_Courtyard_Menu_Food_June_21.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKVbHa5y0$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Avery, Todd via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 2:43 PM To: Caroline Webb ; Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS From: Vwoolf Somehow I think this would be a perfect conversation for a group of Woolfians--at the (it's true) Woolf and Whistle restaurant at the Tavistock Hotel. T Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Caroline Webb via Vwoolf Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2025 7:40:00 PM To: Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf ; Annaliese Hoehling Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A. A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Like those terrible mawkish statements attributed to A.A. Milne that show up as life-affirming quotes on the web! Caroline ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of Annaliese Hoehling via Vwoolf Sent: 04 January 2025 10:11 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.?[quare, W.?C.?1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.?? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] The closest I've found in the Letters: 1847: To V. Sackville-West Sunday night [22 January 1928] 52 T[avistock] S.[quare, W.C.1] "I?ve been thinking of you all the time, dear Honey.? 1987: To V. Sackville-West Monday [28 January 1929] [52 Tavistock Square, W.C. 1] ?I keep thinking of you and long?oh Lord how I long?that you would open the door and come in.? And the phrase "thinking of you" doesn't show up in the Diaries at all, based on my searching of the Complete Works, anyway. As an aside, I have done some part-time editing for a publishing company (a kind of glamour/self-publishing firm with editing services), and the thing that we always have to explain to authors is that just because "BrainyQuotes.com" or Goodreads attributes a saying to someone, it doesn't make it a real quote! I think Albert Einstein is the one we get the most erroneous attributions for. At least with Woolf we have a pretty good archive and community of scholars to verify! On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:29?PM Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > wrote: It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro From: Neverow, Vara S. Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 It looks like I was wrong and modern methods of quotation research are nothing compared to the work of great scholars like Stuart and Sarah ! Fred Shapiro ________________________________ From: Neverow, Vara S. > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 10:03 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson >; Shapiro, Fred > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... Regarding that specific (and very slippery) misquotation about the Bloomsberries and squares and triangles and so forth, it's worth a glance at ?squares where all the couples are triangles? by Stuart N. Clarke in Issue 92 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on page 38: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/vwm92fall2017winter20181.pdf__;!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKXVKHOGD$ Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Shapiro, Fred via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:46 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >; Edward Mendelson > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to I am just now discovering the misattribution page. Modern techniques of quotation research may be able to improve upon the information there. For example, "All the couples are triangles, and they all live in squares," referring to Bloomsbury, appeared in the Daily Telegraph, July 11, 1974. Fred Shapiro Editor New Yale Book of Quotations (Yale University Press) ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of Edward Mendelson via Vwoolf > Sent: Friday, January 3, 2025 9:41 AM To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] A Woolf quotation? Probably not... At the risk of adding to your burdens, it might be worth adding these to the minimal list of misattributions at wikiquote.org >: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fen.wikiquote.org*2Fwiki*2FVirginia_Woolf*Misattributed__*3BIw!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4o-cq4MCY*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203719355*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=NPj97CjmDJNvBCuxUzZElLR2OOFc618JhdflGabga3A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSolJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKeh8PBA4$ Or at least add a link from the wikiquote page to the VWSGB page? > On Jan 3, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Sarah M. Hall via Vwoolf > wrote: > > In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website:In case you didn?t know, Stuart N. Clarke and I set up a page dedicated to this kind of thing on the VWSGB website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__http*3A*2F*2Fwww.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk*2Fresources*2Fmisquotations__*3B!!KGKeukY!yrqd9hbNSLRe2SHfs9hgGPi2Vki2rJqrg4MdyYBCKf2R5n3kfyPDBuyeUYk4eOs87gQOxZe29AvHfoMGCGSetimpzk4oO9titqk*24&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203731662*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=ua7Tr46S4ML1tGMYYTxmesW3MQMbuTjKszsqYj3FBiM*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKUBOkTvd$ > _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flists.osu.edu*2Fmailman*2Flistinfo*2Fvwoolf&data=05*7C02*7Cfred.shapiro*40yale.edu*7C3812c48c62c745c3b06208dd2c04c599*7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c*7C0*7C0*7C638715121203743496*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=mHVVmrR3lyFzWxIgD79JB1JdS0DuX6Obk9dUchxF8P8*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!0ESZiFhEFzONykHkXOtByPOSXNnA_jbktijLhJ3JcZyJ1TQW1bx3Bv9L-VZyJ1TWwK-6Lei9lOX192UvcBw1tTXKKTPlYH9M$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Friday, 17 January 2025 at 20:09:53 GMT, Gretchen Gerzina via Vwoolf wrote: The discovery of the poems has also made it onto the NPR (National Public Radio) website: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.npr.org/2025/01/17/nx-s1-5260964/virginia-woolf-poems-niece-nephew__;!!KGKeukY!20xdQYne2Av39OMd-snPlRBjhG6uVm3Kbj5OT_z5MI2JlUxSEAQhFIHMz7JIyGlIvSEaLyJZE249AJ4$ Ellen, the article is in the latest TLS, dated 17 January 2025. I read it online, so don't have a page number. ?Gretchen Holbrook Gerzina Today's Topics: 1. Re: Unearthed poems by Virginia (Ellen Moody) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 11:55:07 -0500 From: Ellen Moody > To: Mark Hussey > Cc: "vwoolf at lists.osu.edu " > Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Unearthed poems by Virginia Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I get the TLS as a slim paper newsletter/journal each week. I am likeliest to find whatever it is if someone would supply the date and volume of the issue, and if possible the pages Ellen Moody On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:51?AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf > wrote: > The writer of the linked article says Woolf "often dismissed poetry as an > art form". . . where do they get these people?! On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9: > 36 AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: Amazing > Maggie. > The writer of the linked article says Woolf "often dismissed poetry as an > art form"... where do they get these people?! > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:36?AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < > vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > wrote: > >> Amazing Maggie. Thank you so much for this. From: Maggie Humm > uel. ac. uk> Sent: 16 January 2025 14: 21 To: stringsOf Light >> ; vwoolf@ lists. osu. edu > lists. osu. edu> Subject: Re: Unearthed >> Amazing Maggie. Thank you so much for this. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Maggie Humm > >> *Sent:* 16 January 2025 14:21 >> *To:* stringsOf Light >; >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > >> *Subject:* Re: Unearthed poems by Virginia >> >> The article in full is in this week's TLS >> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.the-tls.co.uk/literature/poetry-literature/hiccoughs-and-angelica-virginia-woolf-sophie-oliver__;!!KGKeukY!yL5e16JYXcxfTzsNAvuLsH_5Qb-O3OasOWlf4rtZh1fAx8phMqqsIcCdQgDdnd6_tOLEHH4NF5NRqb64GKHV9Fis$ >> > >> Best >> Maggie >> >> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS >> > >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Vwoolf > on behalf >> of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf > >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2025 2:08 pm >> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > >> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Unearthed poems by Virginia >> >> Long live the language of poetry! (I am so excited about this) https: >> //www. miragenews. >> com/unearthed-poems-reveal-virginia-woolfs-lighter-1392020/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? >> *This email is from an external source. 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Sent from my iPhone On 19 Jan 2025, at 16:43, Johnson, Melissa via Vwoolf wrote: ? Hello everyone ? I have a Woolf-adjacent question. A few years ago my friend Jin Lee (an amazing photographer I teach with) took some photographs at Kew Gardens. One of these is of the windows of the Temperate House seen from the outside. There Hello everyone ? I have a Woolf-adjacent question. A few years ago my friend Jin Lee (an amazing photographer I teach with) took some photographs at Kew Gardens. One of these is of the windows of the Temperate House seen from the outside. There are squiggles in the condensation on the windows and she?s wondering what causes them ? does anyone know? I?ve attached one of the photos. Thanks! Melissa -- Dr. Melissa Johnson, MILS, PhD Professor, Art History 214C Center for the Visual Arts Wonsook Kim School of Art Wonsook Kim College of Fine Arts Illinois State University Pronouns: she/her Email: majohn2 at ilstu.edu Phone: 309-438-8170 _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jan 19 12:21:45 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 17:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf-adjacent question about Kew Gardens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1827783496.2952963.1737307305603@mail.yahoo.com> Definitely! They (and slugs) get everywhere, quite high up sometimes. There's a flat roof next to me with squiggles just like those in the dirty patches. And when my kitchen windows steam up it's obvious what's been crawling over them. Sarah M. HallExecutive Council?VWSGB Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 5:09 PM, Johnson, Melissa via Vwoolf wrote: _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From majohn2 at ilstu.edu Sun Jan 19 14:11:28 2025 From: majohn2 at ilstu.edu (Johnson, Melissa) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 19:11:28 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf-adjacent question about Kew Gardens In-Reply-To: <1827783496.2952963.1737307305603@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1827783496.2952963.1737307305603@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: So wonderful! Thank you, Sarah and Gill! I?ll let Jin know. And I?m going to see if Woolf ever wrote about snail or slug trails on windows. Melissa -- Dr. Melissa Johnson, MILS, PhD Professor, Art History 214C Center for the Visual Arts Wonsook Kim School of Art Wonsook Kim College of Fine Arts Illinois State University Pronouns: she/her Email: majohn2 at ilstu.edu Phone: 309-438-8170 From: Sarah M. Hall Date: Sunday, January 19, 2025 at 11:24 AM To: Johnson, Melissa , Johnson, Melissa via Vwoolf , Gill Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf-adjacent question about Kew Gardens You don't often get email from smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk. Learn why this is important This message originated from outside of the Illinois State University email system. Learn why this is important Definitely! They (and slugs) get everywhere, quite high up sometimes. There's a flat roof next to me with squiggles just like those in the dirty patches. And when my kitchen windows steam up it's obvious what's been crawling over them. Sarah M. Hall Executive Council VWSGB Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 5:09 PM, Johnson, Melissa via Vwoolf wrote: _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.deGay at leedstrinity.ac.uk Mon Jan 20 05:35:17 2025 From: J.deGay at leedstrinity.ac.uk (Jane deGay) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 10:35:17 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Re thread 'Unearthed poems by Virginia' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations on your exciting discovery, Sophie. Thanks for mentioning Emily Kopley?s Virginia Woolf and Poetry (2021). Subscribers may be interested to know that Kopley?s book was the subject of a Forum discussion in Volume 30 of Woolf Studies Annual. Best wishes Jane From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Oliver, Sophie [sophieo] via Vwoolf Sent: 17 January 2025 14:45 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Re thread 'Unearthed poems by Virginia' Hi Mark Just responding to the thread as I?m on the list. I found the poems and wrote the piece about them in the TLS. Woolf?s ambivalence about poetry, including sometimes her sniffiness about it, seemed to me compellingly documented in Emily ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This email originated from outside of Leeds Trinity University. Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. Report Suspicious ? ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Hi Mark Just responding to the thread as I?m on the list. I found the poems and wrote the piece about them in the TLS. Woolf?s ambivalence about poetry, including sometimes her sniffiness about it, seemed to me compellingly documented in Emily Hi Mark Just responding to the thread as I?m on the list. I found the poems and wrote the piece about them in the TLS. Woolf?s ambivalence about poetry, including sometimes her sniffiness about it, seemed to me compellingly documented in Emily Kopley?s Virginia Woolf and Poetry (2021). Best wishes Sophie Oliver Senior Lecturer in Modernism, University of Liverpool Dr Sophie Oliver (she/her) Senior Lecturer in Modernism | University of Liverpool| Department of English | School of Arts | 19?23 Abercromby Square, room 245 | Liverpool L69 7ZR ~~~~~~~ Listen to me on Radio 3 reading my essay about Jean Rhys, a dress she owned that now belongs to me, and ambivalent motherhood. Documentary feature: ?At Home with Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Todd_Avery at uml.edu Mon Jan 20 08:14:27 2025 From: Todd_Avery at uml.edu (Avery, Todd) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:14:27 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Naomi Black Message-ID: Dear friends, I am just hearing the sad news now. 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Best, Ben From: Vwoolf on behalf of Jane deGay via Vwoolf Date: Monday, January 20, 2025 at 4:35?AM To: Oliver, Sophie [sophieo] , vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Re thread 'Unearthed poems by Virginia' Congratulations on your exciting discovery, Sophie. Thanks for mentioning Emily Kopley?s Virginia Woolf and Poetry (2021). Subscribers may be interested to know that Kopley?s book was the subject of a Forum discussion in Volume 30 of Woolf Studies Congratulations on your exciting discovery, Sophie. Thanks for mentioning Emily Kopley?s Virginia Woolf and Poetry (2021). Subscribers may be interested to know that Kopley?s book was the subject of a Forum discussion in Volume 30 of Woolf Studies Annual. Best wishes Jane From: Vwoolf On Behalf Of Oliver, Sophie [sophieo] via Vwoolf Sent: 17 January 2025 14:45 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Re thread 'Unearthed poems by Virginia' Hi Mark Just responding to the thread as I?m on the list. I found the poems and wrote the piece about them in the TLS. Woolf?s ambivalence about poetry, including sometimes her sniffiness about it, seemed to me compellingly documented in Emily Hi Mark Just responding to the thread as I?m on the list. I found the poems and wrote the piece about them in the TLS. Woolf?s ambivalence about poetry, including sometimes her sniffiness about it, seemed to me compellingly documented in Emily Hi Mark Just responding to the thread as I?m on the list. I found the poems and wrote the piece about them in the TLS. Woolf?s ambivalence about poetry, including sometimes her sniffiness about it, seemed to me compellingly documented in Emily Kopley?s Virginia Woolf and Poetry (2021). Best wishes Sophie Oliver Senior Lecturer in Modernism, University of Liverpool Dr Sophie Oliver (she/her) Senior Lecturer in Modernism | University of Liverpool| Department of English | School of Arts | 19?23 Abercromby Square, room 245 | Liverpool L69 7ZR ~~~~~~~ Listen to me on Radio 3 reading my essay about Jean Rhys, a dress she owned that now belongs to me, and ambivalent motherhood. Documentary feature: ?At Home with Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anastasiasf at gmail.com Mon Jan 20 14:59:17 2025 From: anastasiasf at gmail.com (Anastasia H) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 11:59:17 -0800 Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway In-Reply-To: References: <469355106.21626224.1736861662704@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, Harish - I'm always happy to find new publishers of interesting books! And it certainly keeps the buyer at my local bookstore busy! Regards Anastasia On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 9:37?AM Harish Trivedi wrote: > Thanks, Anastasia, for your interest in my publisher or at least in their > name! Here's a brief history of the imprint, with shades of the > "Oriental," postcolonial, and globalizing discourses. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient_Blackswan__;!!KGKeukY!zT9aOd3UHhbmiPGMMTui-9Spi2eH0OthRaGpwLdlZpzthT--M8sl5uTpKM2xSxhwGZzMPW41cgnr2CFnF9g1Vl3C$ > > Incidentally, they have recently launched a series of edited volumes > titled *100 Years of .... *Before my own volume on *A *Passage* to > India, *they had brought out *100 Years of *The Waste Land, to which I > too was a contributor. > > Following liberalization in the 1990s, we now have Penguin India, > HarperCollins, Rouledge, and Hachette etc publishing from India, with > different degrees of affiliation to the parent international brands. The > oldest is OUP India (since 1912?), followed I think by Macmillan and CUP. > > India has for many years been the third largest publisher of books in the > English language -- though less than 10% of Indians actually (can) read > books in English. The largest-selling newspapers are in Hindi as are the > most popular TV news channels. > > No work of VW seems to have been translated into Hindi, except *A Room of > One's Own. * > > Harish Trivedi > > > > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 at 06:52, Anastasia H wrote: > >> Your book looks quite interesting! I also perused some of the other >> categories and collected the names of several other titles of interest. >> >> The buyer at my local bookstore is going to enjoy this request. Thank you >> for bringing this publisher to my attention! >> >> Also, I am partial to any publisher with "Swan" in the name, as my own >> offshoot project is "Black Swan Press": >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.blackswanpress.net/__;!!KGKeukY!zT9aOd3UHhbmiPGMMTui-9Spi2eH0OthRaGpwLdlZpzthT--M8sl5uTpKM2xSxhwGZzMPW41cgnr2CFnF5h3XOGh$ >> >> On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 5:18?AM Harish Trivedi via Vwoolf < >> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: >> >>> Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. >>> Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the two >>> dots that A Passage to India and Mrs Dalloway were published within a year >>> of each other, by authors >>> Here's another Forster, based on a photo taken in India in 1922. >>> >>> Apologies for the book-/self-/promotion, but I am trying to connect the >>> two dots that *A Passage to India* and *Mrs Dalloway* were published >>> within a year of each other, by authors who were close (if critical) >>> friends. >>> >>> *100 Years of *A Passage to India >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://orientblackswan.com/details?id=9789354429293__;!!KGKeukY!zT9aOd3UHhbmiPGMMTui-9Spi2eH0OthRaGpwLdlZpzthT--M8sl5uTpKM2xSxhwGZzMPW41cgnr2CFnF0R2tKiZ$ >>> >>> >>> Best wishes. >>> Harish >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Harish Trivedi >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 03:56, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < >>> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Totally agree there with you Sarah. E. M. Forster has for example a >>>> distinguished nose when shown in profile (as seen in the photo attached) >>>> which is a dominant feature, yet in the drawing it is not quite really >>>> captured that well. From: Sarah >>>> Totally agree there with you Sarah. >>>> E.M. Forster has for example a distinguished nose when shown in >>>> profile (as seen in the photo attached) which is a dominant feature, yet in >>>> the drawing it is not quite really captured that well. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Sarah M. Hall >>>> *Sent:* 14 January 2025 13:34 >>>> *To:* Jeremy Hawthorn ; vwoolf at lists.osu.edu < >>>> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu>; stringsOf Light >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway >>>> >>>> (And 'Orlando' . . .) >>>> >>>> The pics are imaginative representations based (at least in some cases) >>>> on photographs. The intention is illustrative rather than realistic, I >>>> suppose. >>>> >>>> Struggling to find any trace of E. M. Forster in his portrait though! >>>> >>>> Sarah >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah M. Hall >>>> Executive Council >>>> Virginia Woolf Society of GB >>>> Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk >>>> >>>> Facebook: @VWSGB >>>> Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB >>>> Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, 13 January 2025 at 13:01:35 GMT, stringsOf Light via Vwoolf < >>>> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. >>>> There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. http: //www. >>>> nikoletasekulovic. com/rossetti-collection From: Vwoolf >>>> >>>> I hope you?ll like this a little more: Virginia surrounded by flowers. >>>> There is also one of Vita Sackville-West too. >>>> >>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.nikoletasekulovic.com/rossetti-collection__;!!KGKeukY!zT9aOd3UHhbmiPGMMTui-9Spi2eH0OthRaGpwLdlZpzthT--M8sl5uTpKM2xSxhwGZzMPW41cgnr2CFnF1WeZiEb$ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Vwoolf >>> hotmail.co.uk at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf < >>>> vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> >>>> *Sent:* 11 January 2025 20:57 >>>> *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >>>> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] Woolf in Norway >>>> >>>> The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a >>>> book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia >>>> Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles >>>> with >>>> The Norwegian newspaper "Klassekampen" (= "Class Struggle") produces a >>>> book supplement every weekend. This week there are 3 pages on Virginia >>>> Woolf by Swedish writer Peter Englund, concentrating on Woolf's struggles >>>> with "The Years" as detailed in her diary. The link below takes you to the >>>> front of the supplement, which contains a portrait that to my eye looks >>>> nothing like Woolf. In addition, the main body of the newspaper contains a >>>> couple of pages about D. H. Lawrence, so Norwegian lovers of the 20th >>>> century English novel have plenty to enjoy over the weekend. >>>> >>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2025-01-11/bokmagasinet__;!!KGKeukY!zT9aOd3UHhbmiPGMMTui-9Spi2eH0OthRaGpwLdlZpzthT--M8sl5uTpKM2xSxhwGZzMPW41cgnr2CFnF_h5xJE9$ >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeremy H >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Vwoolf mailing list >>>> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >>>> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Vwoolf mailing list >>>> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >>>> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Vwoolf mailing list >>> Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu >>> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Alongside the re-issue of Bronski Beat?s iconic ?Age of Consent?, the band have worked with acclaimed filmmaker Matt Lambert to create a powerful new video for single ?Why?? exploring four decades of struggle. https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.huckmag.com__;!!KGKeukY!2YNoJGWYLYM4V1uCyvbv02-F-NKmS4qXAbVAvYVD-L2tMkkIJcGR9tM7XT6UYX50QoNbg6aK9--EFFLRA21cppADVdv9bTv6$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neverowv1 at southernct.edu Wed Jan 22 13:22:46 2025 From: neverowv1 at southernct.edu (Neverow, Vara S.) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 18:22:46 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Google alerts.... Message-ID: Greetings, Below are some online sources of possible interest: Accessible for the United Kingdom, Germany & Sweden only on Readly: Opening the family album - 17 Jan 2025 - The TLS Magazine - Readly THE BLOOMSBURY PHOTOGRAPHS MAGGIE HUMM 240pp. Yale University Press. ?30 (US $40). Virginia Woolf disliked being photographed, painted or sculpted. Accessible globally (I think): https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://glasstire.com/events/2024/12/23/elaine-reichek-something-betwixt-and-between-matisse-bloomsbury/__;!!KGKeukY!0Gb20IKrAtV8D4HzZ1NhQphJoe-I5OZnCvb3Z9G4VaZBajclOvWpp5g4Wdn_IuFAoO42cY4iF1lSaALEUsjPV7NptyJS$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://glasstire.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Elaine-Reichek-Something-Betwixt-and-Between-**B-Matisse-Bloomsbury.jpg__;4oCU!!KGKeukY!0Gb20IKrAtV8D4HzZ1NhQphJoe-I5OZnCvb3Z9G4VaZBajclOvWpp5g4Wdn_IuFAoO42cY4iF1lSaALEUsjPV43UjzbS$ ] Elaine Reichek: Something Betwixt and Between - Glasstire January 18 - March 1, 2025 . From Seven Sisters: ?For more than five decades, Elaine Reichek has been engaged in rereading a wide range of historical images and texts from her own critical and feminist perspective. glasstire.com Modernist Maker Digest 014: The Omega Workshops - Substack Substack Apologies if any of these have been previously posted. Best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 7:23?PM Neverow, Vara S. via Vwoolf < vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote: > Greetings, Below are some online sources of possible interest: Accessible > for the United Kingdom, Germany & Sweden only on Readly: Opening the family > album - 17 Jan 2025 - The TLS Magazine - Readly THE BLOOMSBURY PHOTOGRAPHS > MAGGIE HUMM > Greetings, > > Below are some online sources of possible interest: > > Accessible for the United Kingdom, Germany & Sweden only on Readly: > > Opening the family album - 17 Jan 2025 - The TLS Magazine - Readly > > THE *BLOOMSBURY* PHOTOGRAPHS MAGGIE HUMM 240pp. Yale University Press. > ?30 (US $40). *Virginia Woolf* disliked being photographed, painted or > sculpted. > > Accessible globally (I think): > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://glasstire.com/events/2024/12/23/elaine-reichek-something-betwixt-and-between-matisse-bloomsbury/__;!!KGKeukY!wSh02qemkbwfzquFBS6sCXNB7kwTy0NYReu1YPIxiwgkcSMeflykkJrdYBJ33mapSqDAWhWas3YL9w$ > > > > > Elaine Reichek: Something Betwixt and Between - Glasstire > > January 18 - March 1, 2025 . From Seven Sisters: ?For more than five > decades, Elaine Reichek has been engaged in rereading a wide range of > historical images and texts from her own critical and feminist perspective. > glasstire.com > > Modernist Maker Digest 014: The Omega Workshops - Substack > > Substack > > Apologies if any of these have been previously posted. > > Best, > Vara > > Vara Neverow > (she/her/hers) > Professor, English Department > Editor, *Virginia Woolf Miscellany* > Southern Connecticut State University > New Haven, CT 06515 > 203-392-6717 > neverowv1 at southernct.edu > > *I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut **State University was built on > traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the > Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples.* > > > *Recent Publications:* > > Lead editor, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources *(Bloomsbury, > 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume > One, 1975-1984, *Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources* (Bloomsbury, > 2020); Co-editor, *The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and > Contemporary Global Literature* (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, > Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here they are:"Two Virginia Woolf poems discovered in Texas," Jan. 19, 2025,?https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bloggingwoolf.org/2025/01/19/two-virginia-woolf-poems-discovered-in-texas/__;!!KGKeukY!ysnNNHARDfdr_ZLnFsT_fnf3b538gZpIopYJCraI8sclcXM9yAeLkCVgbEkD89XXFKu8Bgq3KOs1w-FvAf2LFNI$ "Virginia Woolf and a water closet of her own -- in duplicate," Dec. 20, 2018,??https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bloggingwoolf.org/2018/12/20/virginia-woolf-and-a-water-closet-of-her-own-in-duplicate/__;!!KGKeukY!ysnNNHARDfdr_ZLnFsT_fnf3b538gZpIopYJCraI8sclcXM9yAeLkCVgbEkD89XXFKu8Bgq3KOs1w-FvjUmHYMo$ Paula Maggio??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In her manner I say, ?This is ?London by Land, Air & Sea?.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.dutchuncle.co.uk/blog/klaus-kremmerz-x-alexander-animation-virginia-woolf?format=amp__;!!KGKeukY!zJ4JiF1M0LqLtfkbTHIJoF5nRT9kvLh2moyNjGBXmvDwbxzjy8LKkDv8RN3-eFe-a29GvB3dLxwb4jJhV6xw_NKRG1k5aKoy$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Fri Jan 24 08:17:46 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 13:17:46 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Fw=3A__watch_=26_listen-_animation_=E2=80=98Vi?= =?utf-8?b?cmdpbmlhIFdvb2xm4oCZ?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What a sleepyhead I was when I wrote what I wrote. It?s surely, 'London by Land, Sea and Air'. This is me as per usual, in need of a coffee break. ? ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf Sent: 24 January 2025 11:17 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] watch & listen- animation ?Virginia Woolf? ?Something new to look at.?? Patti Smith has insta page called thisispattismith, and each post starts with 'This is.?.?.?' In her manner I say, ?This is ?London by Land, Air & Sea?.?? https:?//www.?dutchuncle.?co.?uk/blog/klaus-kremmerz-x-alexander-animation-virginia-woolf?format=amp ?Something new to look at.? Patti Smith has insta page called thisispattismith, and each post starts with 'This is...' 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Message-ID: Dear all, Today is the launch of Issue 102 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on WordPress! The Spring/Fall 2024 issue is at last available. Today is also Virginia Woolf's 143 birthday (See Paula Maggio's blog post from last year: Virginia Woolf's birthday, 142 years later. years ago today, on Jan. 25, 1882, at 12:15 p.m [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bloggingwoolf.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cake.jpg__;!!KGKeukY!0I9u3Qtxz-jR0zyaxuRFRE4zONCzcB0HTbQx9K9IJIkO7JHfmbkt1V2fMbfqNwhhaddxxpbTfDEPc8ZnTHv18ZaUnzoX$ ] Virginia Woolf?s birthday, 142 years later | Blogging Woolf Tday is Virginia Woolf?s birthday. She was born in Kensington, London, 142 years ago today, on Jan. 25, 1882, at 12:15 p.m.. On her birthday in 2016, I shared the entries from her published diaries dated on her birthday or the day after. I am repeating them here. Some refer specifically to the gifts she received, the things she did, and the people she saw on her birthday. bloggingwoolf.org And, in addition, the Virginia Woolf Society of Great Britain hosted Eleanor McNees' presentation, "Double Vision: Woolf?s Reading of Hardy and Meredith Through Leslie Stephen?s Eyes," earlier today at the in-person twenty-fourth Annual Birthday Lecture of the VWSGB held at Claudia Jones Room, Camden Town Hall, 5 Judd Street, London WC1H 9JE (https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk/events/__;!!KGKeukY!0I9u3Qtxz-jR0zyaxuRFRE4zONCzcB0HTbQx9K9IJIkO7JHfmbkt1V2fMbfqNwhhaddxxpbTfDEPc8ZnTHv18eQb7xUU$ ). This is a mass email to the VWoolf Listserve, contributors, and members of the International Virginia Woolf Society. Thus, you may receive several emails. Below is the link to the webpage of Issue 102 of the Virginia Woolf Miscellany on WordPress. The webpage provides an overview of the issue. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/virginia-woolf-miscellany-issue-102-spring-fall-2024/__;!!KGKeukY!0I9u3Qtxz-jR0zyaxuRFRE4zONCzcB0HTbQx9K9IJIkO7JHfmbkt1V2fMbfqNwhhaddxxpbTfDEPc8ZnTHv18SA_YgL8$ [https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/cropped-woolfportrait.jpg?w=200__;!!KGKeukY!0I9u3Qtxz-jR0zyaxuRFRE4zONCzcB0HTbQx9K9IJIkO7JHfmbkt1V2fMbfqNwhhaddxxpbTfDEPc8ZnTHv18YawHmag$ ] Virginia Woolf Miscellany, Issue 102, Spring-Fall 2024 Special Topic: Twenty-First-Century Perspectives on Virginia Woolf: Feminisms, Genders, Politics, and Patriarchy To access the PDF of Issue 102, click here; to view the Table of Contents, go to pag? virginiawoolfmiscellany.wordpress.com If you click on the link that is provided on the webpage, you will be able to access the online PDF version of the issue. The issue will be available in print to those who are current members of the International Virginia Woolf Society. (The print version will not be available for a few weeks.) If you are a member and are not certain what your current membership status is or whether you have selected the print version of the Miscellany, please contact Annaliese Hoehling (annalieseh at gmail.com) and Kirsten Burningham (kirsten.burningham at byu.edu) and include me in your email. Also, even if you do not get the print version of the Miscellany, you should tell us if you have changed your surface mail address recently. Tell me if you have any questions. All best, Vara Vara Neverow (she/her/hers) Professor, English Department Editor, Virginia Woolf Miscellany Southern Connecticut State University New Haven, CT 06515 203-392-6717 neverowv1 at southernct.edu I acknowledge that Southern Connecticut State University was built on traditional territory of the indigenous peoples and nations of the Paugussett and Quinnipiac peoples. Recent Publications: Lead editor, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Kathryn Simpson, and Gill Lowe); Editor, Volume One, 1975-1984, Virginia Woolf: Critical and Primary Sources (Bloomsbury, 2020); Co-editor, The Edinburgh Companion to Virginia Woolf and Contemporary Global Literature (Edinburgh, 2020; with Jeanne Dubino, Paulina Paj?k, Catherine Hollis, and Celiese Lypka) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It?s surely, > 'London by Land, Sea and Air'. > > This is me as per usual, in need of a coffee break. ? > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Vwoolf > on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf > *Sent:* 24 January 2025 11:17 > *To:* vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > *Subject:* [Vwoolf] watch & listen- animation ?Virginia Woolf? > > ?Something new to look at. ? Patti Smith has insta page called > thisispattismith, and each post starts with 'This is. . . ' In her manner I > say, ?This is ?London by Land, Air & Sea?. ? https: //www. dutchuncle. co. > uk/blog/klaus-kremmerz-x-alexander-animation-virginia-woolf?format=amp > ?Something new to look at.? > > Patti Smith has insta page called thisispattismith, and each post starts > with 'This is...' > > In her manner I say, > ?This is ?London by Land, Air & Sea?.? > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.dutchuncle.co.uk/blog/klaus-kremmerz-x-alexander-animation-virginia-woolf?format=amp__;!!KGKeukY!yWTSwjTchCyNJC2jlZ8FGrLKSQ6QpwcNLEqUUocpM2nnPWHyRKBUsLbwzvMnsWaGNemnEZDIfZ-MAgYp6ncXn0in$ > > > _______________________________________________ > Vwoolf mailing list > Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jan 26 08:05:09 2025 From: smhall123 at yahoo.co.uk (Sarah M. Hall) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 13:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Fw=3A_watch_=26_listen-_animation_=E2=80=98Vir?= =?utf-8?q?ginia_Woolf=E2=80=99?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <92355594.7639570.1737896709827@mail.yahoo.com> Lovely! Wish it was longer, but I know that animation, done in the traditional way at least, is very time- and labour-intensive. You might know approximately, but to save people trying to track down the words, the sources are listed below. London by Land, Sea and Air (actually, the order in the animation is London by Sea, Air and Land) Intro = Portrait of a Londoner (Good Housekeeping, December 1932; E5 593?8) Sea = The Docks of London (Good Housekeeping, December 1931; E5 275?82) Air = Flying over London (written 1928; pubd The Captain's Death Bed, 1950; E6 445?50) Land = Portrait of a Londoner again Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 02:48:12 GMT, Anastasia H via Vwoolf wrote: This is wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing it! On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 5:?18 AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: What a sleepyhead I was when I wrote what I wrote. It?s surely, 'London by Land, Sea andThis is wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing it! On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 5:18?AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: What a sleepyhead I was when I wrote what I wrote. It?s surely, 'London by Land, Sea and Air'. This is me as per usual, in need of a coffee break. ? From: Vwoolf on behalf ofWhat a sleepyhead I was when I wrote what I wrote.?It?s surely,?'London by Land, Sea and Air'.?This is me as per usual, in need of a coffee break. ? From: Vwoolf on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf Sent: 24 January 2025 11:17 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] watch & listen- animation ?Virginia Woolf???Something new to look at.?? Patti Smith has insta page called thisispattismith, and each post starts with 'This is.?.?.?' In her manner I say, ?This is ?London by Land, Air & Sea?.?? https:?//www.?dutchuncle.?co.?uk/blog/klaus-kremmerz-x-alexander-animation-virginia-woolf?format=amp?Something new to look at.? Patti Smith has insta page called thisispattismith, and each post starts with 'This is...' 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URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Sun Jan 26 19:40:10 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 00:40:10 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] =?utf-8?q?Fw=3A_watch_=26_listen-_animation_=E2=80=98Vir?= =?utf-8?q?ginia_Woolf=E2=80=99?= In-Reply-To: <92355594.7639570.1737896709827@mail.yahoo.com> References: <92355594.7639570.1737896709827@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here in this case the reference is obvious :) (check out the photo attached) Advice worth following by VW. ________________________________ From: Sarah M. Hall Sent: 26 January 2025 13:05 To: stringsOf Light ; Anastasia H Cc: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Fw: watch & listen- animation ?Virginia Woolf? Lovely! Wish it was longer, but I know that animation, done in the traditional way at least, is very time- and labour-intensive. You might know approximately, but to save people trying to track down the words, the sources are listed below. London by Land, Sea and Air (actually, the order in the animation is London by Sea, Air and Land) Intro = Portrait of a Londoner (Good Housekeeping, December 1932; E5 593?8) Sea = The Docks of London (Good Housekeeping, December 1931; E5 275?82) Air = Flying over London (written 1928; pubd The Captain's Death Bed, 1950; E6 445?50) Land = Portrait of a Londoner again Sarah Sarah M. Hall Executive Council Virginia Woolf Society of GB Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk Facebook: @VWSGB Twitter/X: @VirginiaWoolfGB Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 02:48:12 GMT, Anastasia H via Vwoolf wrote: This is wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing it! On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 5:?18 AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf wrote: What a sleepyhead I was when I wrote what I wrote. It?s surely, 'London by Land, Sea and This is wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing it! On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 5:18?AM stringsOf Light via Vwoolf > wrote: What a sleepyhead I was when I wrote what I wrote. It?s surely, 'London by Land, Sea and Air'. This is me as per usual, in need of a coffee break. ? From: Vwoolf on behalf of What a sleepyhead I was when I wrote what I wrote. It?s surely, 'London by Land, Sea and Air'. This is me as per usual, in need of a coffee break. ? ________________________________ From: Vwoolf > on behalf of stringsOf Light via Vwoolf > Sent: 24 January 2025 11:17 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu > Subject: [Vwoolf] watch & listen- animation ?Virginia Woolf? ?Something new to look at.?? Patti Smith has insta page called thisispattismith, and each post starts with 'This is.?.?.?' In her manner I say, ?This is ?London by Land, Air & Sea?.?? https:?//www.?dutchuncle.?co.?uk/blog/klaus-kremmerz-x-alexander-animation-virginia-woolf?format=amp ?Something new to look at.? Patti Smith has insta page called thisispattismith, and each post starts with 'This is...' In her manner I say, ?This is ?London by Land, Air & Sea?.? https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.dutchuncle.co.uk/blog/klaus-kremmerz-x-alexander-animation-virginia-woolf?format=amp__;!!KGKeukY!1V9mbJLp3Frqpkdm-iW1__VQGZr9V_SXNcJbAiZrCLUWK0n6F8p7eDweyHjndQuxSv03wHRgjTWb_PTTMnDqL0YVv6KTBepP$ _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf _______________________________________________ Vwoolf mailing list Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_9872.png Type: image/png Size: 473448 bytes Desc: IMG_9872.png URL: From joannborri at gmail.com Sun Jan 26 21:57:15 2025 From: joannborri at gmail.com (JoAnn Borri) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:57:15 -0800 Subject: [Vwoolf] Birthday Celebration at the Sitting Room Library Message-ID: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bloggingwoolf.org/2018/06/06/a-library-one-can-eat-in-a-visit-with-j-j-wilson-of-the-sitting-room-and-a-call-for-papers/__;!!KGKeukY!0VZwGKW-iFUNBqkOGY7YrKoV4hMdY-FvLno1uzY0FrrW0qJg82m98EWCyY5pRyCQ-tKtGarFMkRP2v2LRoIsL68$ Quite often if you were to peer into the windows of the Sitting Room Library on a Saturday afternoon you would discover a group of people in Conversation. And Saturday January 25, was one of those afternoons. Several of us gathered to explore the books and archives for information about the relationship between Virginia Woolf Jane Ellen Harrison and talk about our discoveries. We also shared diary entries and letters written by Woolf on or around her birthday. And of course, there was cake. I searched the $0.99 Kindle e-copy of *The Works of Virginia Woolf, *and discovered that Virginia was fond of Honey Cake. Imagine my joy when I found a recipe for Honey Cake in our copy of The Bloomsbury Cookbook by Jans Ondaatje Rolls on the Woolf Wall. JoAnn Borri Volunteer, the Sitting Room Library [image: Bday Cake 1.25.jpg] [image: Woolf Wall 1.25.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Bday Cake 1.25.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 16522 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The good news is, Hatchards Piccadilly ship overseas and are stocking the pamphlet - so here is the direct link: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.hatchards.co.uk/book/virginia-woolf-in-the-city-oxford-street-tide/louisa-albani/9781739326838__;!!KGKeukY!xMikwvc2tyNuEve-zI9tc_xQ1Hb7QD_pGGZCp4MEAxbKebO8aDGzTzKZ-6jQy_3InPiBbKf3VUc0tjSW3oawr1S8WKg$ The fully illustrated pamphlet includes contributions by Mark Hussey and Derek Ryan - here is a review quote: *Louisa Albani?s pamphlet is a remarkable, multi-media celebration of Woolf?s love of urban space. The pamphlet combines Albani?s mesmerizing illustrations with the text of Woolf?s essay ?Oxford Street Tide? and reflections from Woolf scholars. A true delight!?* Professor Anna Snaith, King?s College London Best wishes Louisa Albani Night Bird Press -- *Louisa Amelia Albani* Artist and small press publisher Night Bird Press -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk Mon Jan 27 14:29:45 2025 From: stringsoflight at hotmail.co.uk (stringsOf Light) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 19:29:45 +0000 Subject: [Vwoolf] Birthday Celebration at the Sitting Room Library In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pink rose is the new ? on top of the cake.:) Beautiful. ________________________________ From: Vwoolf on behalf of JoAnn Borri via Vwoolf Sent: 27 January 2025 02:57 To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu Subject: [Vwoolf] Birthday Celebration at the Sitting Room Library https:?//bloggingwoolf.?org/2018/06/06/a-library-one-can-eat-in-a-visit-with-j-j-wilson-of-the-sitting-room-and-a-call-for-papers/ Quite often if you were to peer into the windows of the Sitting Room Library on a Saturday afternoon you would discover https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://bloggingwoolf.org/2018/06/06/a-library-one-can-eat-in-a-visit-with-j-j-wilson-of-the-sitting-room-and-a-call-for-papers/__;!!KGKeukY!2hCZ7HvMBeEGkl5ON1zwhS63lIK18VOAxzAWhjPRHlqCNuwOjDjNI6cKrUAWP0kpTPjLIRnyLGnYFwL8i2C4SIGF4Ym7rksX$ Quite often if you were to peer into the windows of the Sitting Room Library on a Saturday afternoon you would discover a group of people in Conversation. And Saturday January 25, was one of those afternoons. Several of us gathered to explore the books and archives for information about the relationship between Virginia Woolf Jane Ellen Harrison and talk about our discoveries. We also shared diary entries and letters written by Woolf on or around her birthday. And of course, there was cake. I searched the $0.99 Kindle e-copy of The Works of Virginia Woolf, and discovered that Virginia was fond of Honey Cake. Imagine my joy when I found a recipe for Honey Cake in our copy of The Bloomsbury Cookbook by Jans Ondaatje Rolls on the Woolf Wall. JoAnn Borri Volunteer, the Sitting Room Library [Bday Cake 1.25.jpg] [Woolf Wall 1.25.jpg] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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