[Vwoolf] Proofs

Thu Aug 22 09:21:20 EDT 2024

I don’t think that VW received galley proofs for any of her books except “The Years”.  (I think she sometimes received galley proofs for articles.)

I’ve found the costs for “The Years” (Shakespeare Head edn, p. xxvi – you can depend on Ian Blyth checking in the NLS):

printing costs (bear in mind that these are going to vary wildly from book to book, depending on the no. printed): £315.18.8 = £26,977 (2024)
alterations to the proofs: £90.11.6 = £7,726 (2024)

Stuart

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The Mrs Dalloway proofs are page proofs, complete with page numbers at the top - the same number of pages that appeared in the printed book. Maybe other people can report on her other books? On Aug 22, 2024, at 5: 17 AM, Jeremy Hawthorn via VwoolfThe Mrs Dalloway proofs are page proofs, complete with page numbers at the top - the same number of pages that appeared in the printed book. Maybe other people can report on her other books?

  On Aug 22, 2024, at 5:17 AM, Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf <vwoolf at lists.osu.edu> wrote:

  I'm surprised that changes to galleys should cost so much. With page proofs any change that alters the pagination has to be essential to be allowed, but my recollection is that sometimes galley proofs did not even have numbered pages. But I'm deep into the territory labelled "Ignorance" here. Page proofs were I think often used to compile the index where one was needed, so changes to them could have a serious knock-on effect.

  Is it the case that Woolf's fiction would typically be set first in galleys and then in page proofs?

  Jeremy H

  Professor Emeritus
  Department of Language and Literature
  NTNU
  7491 Trondheim
  Norway

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  The R. & R. Clark Archive (Dep. 229) is held by the National Library of Scotland and their Invoice Journals are the most dependable for this info.  The Hogarth Press Archives in Reading, with a folder for each book, should complement the Clark Invoice Journals, but their contents vary.  They often have requests for estimates, which don’t seem to be available on the Clark side, rather than bills for the finished product.

  Stuart

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  The MAPP project might well have the relevant business records—a very interesting point, Stuart!

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  Note from EUP: “Please bear in mind that proofs are supplied so that we can pick up any typesetting errors or textual errors missed by the copyeditor. Any other amendments at proofs stage are strongly discouraged (and the cost can be charged
  Note from EUP:

  “Please bear in mind that proofs are supplied so that we can pick up any typesetting errors or textual errors missed by the copyeditor. Any other amendments at proofs stage are strongly discouraged (and the cost can be charged back to the author if revisions are deemed excessive)”

  Of course, times have changed from pre-typewriter days (e.g. Dickens), when the printers had to interpret handwriting, and then from VW’s time when the printers had to print from typescripts.  Not everyone had their books professionally typed, but VW usually did.

  However, VW usually made substantial changes at the proof stage, and was charged accordingly and substantially by R. & R. Clark, her printer in Edinburgh.  In all the discussions of VW’s proofs, this expense does not seem to have been remarked upon.  “The Years” was exceptional, where she made huge changes to the galley proofs.  These cost a fortune.

  I do not seem to have any costs readily to hand, except for “Jacob’s Room”, where there are, unfortunately, no proofs extant:

  Typesetting £52.18.2
  Extra for small type, etc. £4.5.0
  Alterations and proofs £10.11.6

  Trying to put that into today’s money: Typesetting @ £57.3.2 = c. £4,059
  Alterations @ £10.11.6 = c. £748

  Yikes!  I wouldn’t pay that.

  Stuart

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