[Vwoolf] Pllural of "Woolf"?

[Anne Margaret Daniel]

John Middleton Murry called them "the Woolves" as a collective, as did
Frances Marshall Partridge.


On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Brenda S. Helt <helt0010 at umn.edu> wrote:

> Most likely the author delivered a flawless ms to the editor, who handed
> it off to a “copy-editor,” who put it through an editing program that uses
> autocorrect, which of course changed “Woolfs” to “Woolves,” and then it was
> published and everybody was paid a few pennies except the author, who made
> nothing.  Just my guess.
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> Brenda Helt
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> Co-editor *Queer Bloomsbury*
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> https://edinburghuniversitypress.com/book-queer-bloomsbury.html
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> *From:* Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces+helt0010=umn.edu at lists.osu.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Mary Ellen Foley
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 04, 2017 12:40 PM
> *To:* Mark Hussey
> *Cc:* vwoolf
> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] Pllural of "Woolf"?
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> From a little quick Googling, it looks like the US edition, at least, is
> from Bloomsbury (appropriately enough). Their style guide says to follow
> the Chicago Manual of Style in such matters; CMOS online says that plurals
> of proper names take *-s *or *-es *in the normal fashion and that
> exceptions are generally to be found in the M-W dictionary. Said dictionary
> online doesn't list poor Leonard at all, much less both of them, but does
> list VW, with no indication that the plural of her surname is nonstandard.
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> So I'd say somebody should have caught it!
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> (If we're dealing with the UK edition, the they should have followed New
> Hart's, and while I'm virtually certain that my beloved old DTB edition
> specifies the same plural, I am one land mass and two seas away from it at
> the moment. And I couldn't find the info in their online version before I
> lost patience with searching.)
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> Having said that, I know authors who have published books with noted
> academic presses, who have been given *no* editorial support at all. They
> were required to arrange for all of the editing themselves, and to pay for
> it.  With publishers pushing these expenses off on the authors, it's no
> surprise that mistakes occur; makes you wonder why they have style guides
> at all, if nobody bothers to ensure quality.
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> Mary Ellen
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> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Mark Hussey <mhussey at verizon.net> wrote:
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> I think it was quite common in Bloomsbury. Clive Bell, for example, often
> notes "Woolves to tea" for example.  Whether it belongs in a scholarly work
> is, or could be, I suppose, another issue...
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> From: Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net at lists.osu.edu] On
> Behalf Of Jean Mallinson
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 7:21 PM
> To: Vwoolf at lists.osu.edu
> Subject: [Vwoolf] Pllural of "Woolf"?
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> Reading Bill Goldstein's The Wold Broke in Two, his recent book about
> Virginia Woolf, T.S. Eliot, D.H. Lawrence and E.M Forster and the "Year
> that changed Literature, I find my  interest engaged by new or forgotten
> information and fresh insights into the writing lives of these loved and
> familiar figures but I am disturbed by a small detail: he uses "Woolves",
> not "Woolfs",  as the plural of "Woolf"    -- not in jest but seriously. Am
> I right in wincing every time I read this? How could an attentive editor
> not have noticed and corrected this?
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> Jean  M.
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