[Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

Danell Jones danelljones at bresnan.net
Wed Aug 31 11:00:21 EDT 2016


I would be great to have this CD upgraded. It is such a valuable resource. I have a copy of it, and there’s an every old computer in my basement used only for this CD.

 

A big question would be about copyright. I expect that Mark Hussey probably knows the limitations there. It might require getting new permissions for all the materials which, in itself, could cost a pretty penny.

 

That said, the NEH has a grant that might be useful, although the deadline has passed for this year: 

 

Brief Summary

The Humanities Collections and Reference Resources (HCRR) program supports projects that provide an essential underpinning for scholarship, education, and public programming in the humanities. Thousands of libraries, archives, museums, and historical organizations across the country maintain important collections of books and manuscripts, photographs, sound recordings and moving images, archaeological and ethnographic artifacts, art and material culture, and digital objects. Funding from this program strengthens efforts to extend the life of such materials and make their intellectual content widely accessible, often through the use of digital technology. Awards are also made to create various reference resources that facilitate use of cultural materials, from works that provide basic information quickly to tools that synthesize and codify knowledge of a subject for in-depth investigation.

HCRR offers two kinds of awards: 1) for implementation and 2) for planning, assessment, and pilot efforts (HCRR Foundations grants).

 

My hunch is that if upgrading is doable, if will probably be a long process. But having this material available to many more people would be great.

 

Danell

 

From: Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of David Eberly
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:34 AM
To: vwoolf at lists.osu.edu
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

 

I am only just now reading this thread with attention and would like to make a suggestion.  I suspect that it would not be difficult upgrade the VW CD-ROM to a preferred compatible media provided that 1) the technical expertise and 2) financial backing were available.  I am thinking that among the membership we might be able to identify one or two with the technical expertise to help with this project.  If not, I know that we could find and/or outsource it.  I am willing to help with the funding.  This funding could come in two ways: a traditional proposal to a foundation, and I can think of a few who be interested and am willing to assist in the approach, and crowd-funding.  As part of the overall funding I would like to propose a mechanism for financial assistance to individual members who invested in the CD-ROM.  

 

If this seems like a good idea, I am willing to pull a little group together.  I would suggest an officer from the IVWS, at least two members from the technical side (US and Great Britain) and, should you wish, another member to help with the fundraising.  

 

While the IVWS is a 501(c)3, it would be good to know if anyone among the membership might be able to sponsor the proposal through their institution; it might make the project more viable to a funder.  I might be able to do so, but most of my clients are now in the arts not higher ed.  

 

For those of you who do not know my background, I am a fundraising consultant who worked at Harvard and Boston Children's before retirement and have a strong background in operations and grants solicitation, so I bring some knowledge to this problem.

 

I'd be glad to get some feedback from the IVWS leadership and from members on the list to gauge any interest.  These are only preliminary thoughts; I could certainly develop a more detailed plan if people thought there might be some value to this.

 

David Eberly


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On Aug 31, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Adams, David <adams.428 at osu.edu <mailto:adams.428 at osu.edu> > wrote:

Thank you all (including two who replied off-list) for the anecdotes, information, and advice!  Armed with my new terminology--"32-bit" systems and "virtual machines"--I'm going to try again.  I'm glad to know Oxford and many others have managed to keep the CD accessible.

 

I don't want to buy another computer just for the CD because a) I don't have room on my desk and would miss the copy & paste & print options and, more importantly, b) this wouldn't solve the problem for the library and my students.  I suspect there is a large gap between what my tech person can do and what he is allowed to do--Ohio State's computer-security regulations are draconian.  But it's encouraging to know the CD can work on newer computers running Windows 7/8/10. . . . 

 

Thanks again,

 

David

 

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From: Christine Froula < <mailto:cfroula at northwestern.edu> cfroula at northwestern.edu>

Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

Date: August 31, 2016 at 8:19:01 AM EDT

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The VW CD-ROM was the first such example of that then-new research medium our university library acquired. It maintains an "old" computer as a station where anyone can still use it (I hope: still) and other such research materials. The last I knew, the students could still use it there.

In 2014 I think it was, a new computer was forced upon me (because the University wouldn't support my "old" one). I'd been told my CD-ROM would work on it, but, alas, it didn't. I expressed distress. A student helper in the college's computer support department then spent the better part of an afternoon creating a virtual machine on the new PC that--lo, a miracle!--runs the CD-ROM just fine. 

At the time, we discussed the copyright issue at length and concluded that since the source is a legitimate, paid-for, circulating copy from our university library, and there was no other alternative to maintain its former condition of accessibility, and I would be the only user, and this is the only way I, a scholar, can use it when I need it, we would not be infringing copyright.

I'm sorry I don't have the faintest idea what the student helper did. I hope you can find someone as resourceful as he was.

Best of luck with it,

Christine

 

On 8/31/2016 5:25 AM, Stuart N. Clarke wrote:

I had Windows 7 Professional and it was possible to create a “virtual machine” so that I could run old CD-ROMS, particularly the VW one, for which I paid £1000 years ago.  I use the VW CD-ROM almost every day.

 

Like many people, I got forced into upgrading to Windows 10 (subsequent to my success in the BL below!).  I found instructions on the internet about creating a virtual machine, so that I could use the CD-ROM on the new system, but they were quite complex and I couldn’t get it to work:

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However, I think I have Windows 10 Pro, which should mean that (as with Windows 7) I should be able to create an official virtual machine, provided I have/can support Hyper-V.  This seems to be a/the problem.  I suspect that Microsoft are going to make the creation of virtual machines easier for Windows 10, but I may be being optimistic.

 

So, I’m using an old laptop for the CD-ROM, which is OK up to a point.  The defects are: (1) if I want to print, I have to disconnect the printer from my computer and plug it into the laptop; (2) more importantly, I can’t copy and paste easily, which is something I was accustomed to do quite often.

 

It should be obvious that I don’t understand some of the terms that I’m using!  But I would have thought that techi people would be able to get round the problem and create this damn “virtual machine”.

 

Stuart

 

From:  <mailto:helt0010 at umn.edu> Brenda S. Helt

Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 6:41 AM

To:  <mailto:adams.428 at osu.edu> 'Adams, David'

Cc:  <mailto:tessa.shaw at queens.ox.ac.uk> tessa.shaw at queens.ox.ac.uk ;  <mailto:vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu> vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu

Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

 

Ah.  Yes, that’s what my electrical engineer husband just told me was probably the issue.  A few years ago he spent some serious time trying to figure out a way that I could run my copy on my latest computer, but had no success.  But you, David, can still run your own CD-ROM on an older PC or notebook at home, can you not?  It’s not a personal security risk, and is of course not any type of security risk to anyone as long as that computer is not connected to a network and is used only for the CD-Rom.

 

Brenda

 

 

Brenda Helt

 

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From: Adams, David [ <mailto:adams.428 at osu.edu> mailto:adams.428 at osu.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:20 PM
To: Brenda S. Helt
Cc:  <mailto:vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu> vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu;  <mailto:tessa.shaw at queens.ox.ac.uk> tessa.shaw at queens.ox.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

 

Brenda, 

 

The university won't support Windows 98, won't even allow it on campus since it's considered a security risk.  Apparently it's been over a decade since 98 was allowed here.  Years ago I used the CD on a Mac with Bootcamp and Windows 98, but apparently Bootcamp can't run it on a newer Mac.

 

David

 

On Aug 31, 2016, at 12:58 AM, Brenda S. Helt < <mailto:helt0010 at umn.edu> helt0010 at umn.edu> wrote:

 

Why is the first option not viable, David?  I think that’s what we’re all doing.  That works pretty well for me when I use the CD, but then a computer running Windows 98 doesn’t register as “really old” to me—nor do they have yellow letters.  I run mine from a laptop.  The screen looks pretty much the same as what you’re using right now.  It’s Windows.  Your students will have no problem with it. Personally, I’d opt for the easy answer.

 

 

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From: Vwoolf [ <mailto:vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu> mailto:vwoolf-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Adams, David
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:24 PM
To:  <mailto:vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu> vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
Cc:  <mailto:tessa.shaw at queens.ox.ac.uk> tessa.shaw at queens.ox.ac.uk
Subject: [Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

 

It's taken me six months but I'm hoping to keep this thread alive with some stateside questions.  A year ago I dusted off two copies of the CD not used in years--mine and my library's--and asked a tech wizard at my institution to get them working.  After installing and downloading and transferring and troubleshooting, the tech person told me I have only two options:  buy a Windows 95 or 98 computer off Ebay for $100 for the sole purpose of running this CD, or transfer the CD's text and image files (which are not encrypted) into a folder on my current computer and use the computer's native search engine and readers rather than the CD's software to access the files. 

 

The first option isn't viable for me or my library/students.  I'm doubtful the second option would work well because so much functionality would be lost--so I haven't tried it yet.  Is anyone out there still using the CD without access to a very old Windows computer or a computer with yellow letters (I'm glad to know the ever-resourceful BL still has the CD running)?  Has anyone tried using the CD's raw files with different applications (the second option suggested by my tech person)--does this really work?  Or has anyone found a way to make the CD functional on a post-2012 computer?


Thanks is advance,

 

David

On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:37 AM,  <mailto:vwoolf-request at lists.osu.edu> vwoolf-request at lists.osu.edu wrote:

 

From: STUART CLARKE < <mailto:stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com> stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com>

Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

Date: February 13, 2016 at 5:20:00 AM EST

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I found a computer with yellow numbers and letters in Humanities 1, and, with a bit of trouble, I was able to call up the VW CD-ROM and it seems to be OK and working fine.

 

Stuart

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Date : 12/02/2016 - 10:18 (GMTST)
To :  <mailto:vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu> vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
Subject : Re: [Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

I am in the BL at the moment.  According to one of the standard computers, the VW CD-ROM is still available, but only at special computers (e.g., those with bright yellow keys - I can't see any of those around me). 

 

Stuart

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>From :  <mailto:mhussey at verizon.net> mhussey at verizon.net
Date : 11/02/2016 - 19:33 (GMTST)
To :  <mailto:vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu> vwoolf at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
Subject : [Vwoolf] Woolf CD-ROM

I am forwarding this request (plea) on behalf of Tessa Shaw, Reader Services Librarian, The Queen's College,

Oxford.

“I am writing to see whether you are able to give me any advice as to where I might obtain a copy of your ‘Major Authors on CD-ROM: Virginia Woolf. Woodbridge, CT: Primary Source Media, 1995’. 

 

It used to be networked in the University but isn’t any longer as the CISCO software is no longer supported. It is now therefore unavailable in both the British Library( for the same reason as Oxford) and the Bodleian. It would be of huge use to our students at Queen’s as all those studying English do Woolf and it seems a crying shame that one Library at least in Oxford doesn’t hold a copy. We would also be able to make it available to other students studying English. 

 

I have looked high and low to see whether there is a copy somewhere, to buy, but so far no luck. If you are able to point me in the right direction of this pot of gold I would be very grateful and so would the students at Oxford.”

 

Tessa is at  <mailto:tessa.shaw at queens.ox.ac.uk> tessa.shaw at queens.ox.ac.uk.

 

 


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