[Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"

Thu Oct 24 09:48:52 EDT 2013

appallingly *copyedited*.

I cannot write without erring.

All apologies.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:48 AM, ANNE Fernald [Staff/Faculty [A&S]] <
fernald at fordham.edu> wrote:

> Seven years ago, my book was appallingly copyediting, outsourced to India
> (where language rules differ from American or British usage). Since then,
> I've despaired of the kind of care that one used to rely on. I make many
> errors. I couldn't get any writing done at all if I were super persnickety
> with myself whilst drafting. Unfortunately, errors made while composing
> tend to persist, and there is no longer a stage where one can rely on an
> editor.
>
> My father is a retired tax lawyer. He made his living catching tiny
> details. I now rely on him to catch my (many) errors and infelicities.
>
> We all should be so lucky.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Diana Swanson <dswanson at niu.edu> wrote:
>
>> I have noticed more and more such mistakes in scholarly books and text
>> books over the last few years; I think that publishers have laid off too
>> many editors and copy-editors. The causes? Probably in large part the
>> consolidation of publishing companies, the pressure for quarterly profits,
>> and the cutting of university budgets (especially state universities) so
>> that university presses are being starved of funds.
>>
>> >>> Mark Hussey <mhussey at verizon.net> 10/24/2013 8:25 AM >>>
>>
>> "Too fussy" might be a euphemism for "able to use words correctly." ****
>>
>> ** **
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>> *From:* vwoolf-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:
>> vwoolf-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] *On Behalf Of *Sarah M. Hall
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:40 AM
>> *To:* Stuart N. Clarke; woolf list
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> There was an interview on Radio 4 yesterday with a Scotsman who thinks
>> that we are all too fussy about English grammar, and that phrases such as
>> 'most beautifullest' are quite acceptable because Shakespeare used these
>> constructions. The opposing view was that Shakespeare was writing poetry.
>> Downward spiral?****
>>
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>> *From:* Stuart N. Clarke <stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com>
>> *To:* woolf list <VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 24 October 2013, 11:33
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Of course, we all make mistakes, but there's just no end to failures in
>> copy-editing.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> There's something just not quite right about:****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> "This great church ... is crowned by the second largest Roman dome after
>> St Peter's."****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> In his TV show, Dave Gorman pointed out the faux spectrum, as in
>> something like "She has taken all the great tragic roles, from Ophelia to
>> the Duchess of Malfi".****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Stuart****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* Jeremy Hawthorn <jeremy.hawthorn at ntnu.no> ****
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:17 AM****
>>
>> *To:* Stuart N. Clarke <stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com> ; woolf list<VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>> ****
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> And another one. In the last week I have seen "interred" used where
>> "interned" was correct, and vice-versa. Thus people of Japanese descent
>> were interred during WW2, and the body was interned after the funeral.
>>
>> Jeremy H****
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>>
>> *From:* vwoolf-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [
>> vwoolf-bounces at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] on behalf of Stuart N.
>> Clarke [stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com]
>> *Sent:* 24 October 2013 11:51
>> *To:* woolf list
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"****
>>
>> The 2 words are quite different, but I admit that I have to concentrate
>> when typing them to make sure I've chosen the right one!  I don't think
>> they have (yet?) become interchangeable.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Unlike "imply" and "infer": in the Antipodes, even in scientific papers,
>> the words are used interchangeably, although I was surprised to find the
>> use as early as 1931, e.g.:****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> M. H. C., 'The Scheme of Things', NZ *Evening Post*, Vol. CXII, No. 112
>> (7 November 1931), 9: '"Oxbridge" . plainly infers [*sic*] Oxford';
>> http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19311107.2.40.1
>> ****
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>>  ****
>>
>> Stuart****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* Sunjoo Lee <abgrund at naver.com> ****
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:38 AM****
>>
>> *To:* woolf list <VWOOLF at lists.acs.ohio-state.edu> ****
>>
>> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] "principle" in place of "principal"****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Hi, everyone,  ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I have been a bit bugged by seeing "principle" when the word has to be
>> "principal." ****
>>
>> I saw that happening in doctoral dissertations and (in a few cases)
>> articles from well-known journals, or even books from good publishers. **
>> **
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> And this afternoon, from Heidegger's *Kant and the Problem of Metaphysics
>> * (Indiana UP, 1997), I found: ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> "Thus the knowledge of beings in general (*Metaphysica Generalis*) and
>> the knowledge of its principle divisions (*Metaphysica Specialis*)
>> become a "science established on the basis of mere reason."" (6). ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> And now I wonder, has "principle" been accepted as an alternate spelling
>> of "principal"? Only I haven't been aware of it? ****
>>
>> Dictionaries I use don't have such information. Has anyone else wondered
>> about this? ****
>>
>>  ****
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>>
>> Sunjoo ****
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>> ****
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Director of Writing/Composition at Lincoln Center,
Associate Professor of
English<http://www.fordham.edu/academics/programs_at_fordham_/english/index.asp>and
Women's
Studies <http://www.fordham.edu/womens_studies>
Fordham University
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