[Vwoolf] Darlings, am I a snob?

Mon Sep 17 03:17:43 EDT 2012

It seems to me significant that VW made the change from “a Colonial insulted the Royal family” in “The Prime Minister” (“Complete Shorter Fiction”, 1989, App. B) to “a Colonial insulted the House of Windsor” in “Mrs. Dalloway”.

Stuart

From: Stuart N. Clarke 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Darlings, am I a snob?

I too tend to think Australian.  Perhaps the Quebecois are more refeened, as Mrs Manresa would say (her grandfather may have been “exported” to Tasmania).  Rather than colonial republicanism, I was thinking more along the lines of: “They’re a load of bloody Krauts, the whole lot of ‘em”.

Stuart

From: Jeremy Hawthorn 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:55 PM
To: Stuart N. Clarke ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu 
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Hmm, not sure about that, Stuart. "In a public-house in a back street a Colonial insulted the House of Windsor, which led to words, broken beer glasses, and a general shindy ...". I find it hard to believe that a comment along the lines of "They should never have changed the name to Windsor, bloody silly name if you ask me" would evoke such a response. More likely that it is Virginia who is being careful, not wanting to state directly that anyone would insult the monarch. In a posting a few years back I admitted that I always assumed that the Colonial was an Australian, but he (presumably it is he) could also have come from Quebec . . .

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Sent: 16 September 2012 10:39
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Subject: [Vwoolf] Darlings, am I a snob?

I think it’s reasonable to assume that this is another wartime ref.  The colonial doesn’t insult the monarchy but the “House of Windsor” – a madey-uppy name created in 1917 to try to reassure the public that the Guelphs (as VW tended to call them) were really British.

For various reasons, this year has slipped out of my grasp.  And I was *so* looking forward to getting my hands on the Duke of Cambridge.

(No, not the new one.)

Stuart

From: Jeremy Hawthorn 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Darlings, am I a snob?

Also in Mrs Dalloway, doesn't a "colonial" insult the House of Windsor?

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Sent: 15 September 2012 21:17
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Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Darlings, am I a snob?

And now I see on Facebook that Persephone Books has bought and made cushions from a fabric purchased at Charleston--it's called "Queen Mary" and is a Duncan Grant print.

On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Stuart N. Clarke <stuart.n.clarke at btinternet.com> wrote:

  Swoon . . .

  As I say, there's much more to be done.  Princess Mary pops up in "Mrs. Dalloway" as a symbol of the post-war world, because she is "married to an Englishman".

  Stuart

  -----Original Message----- From: Adolphe Haberer
  Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:42 PM
  To: Stuart N. Clarke ; vwoolf at lists.service.ohio-state.edu
  Subject: Re: [Vwoolf] Darlings, am I a snob? 

  If Stuart wants to include VW's fiction in his
  research, there is a discreet and rather elegant
  reference to the Royal Family in chapter V of
  Jacob's Room:

  "The autumn season was in full swing. Tristan was twitching his rug up
  under his armpits twice a week; Isolde waved her scarf in miraculous
  sympathy with the conductor's baton. In all parts of the house were to
  be found pink faces and glittering breasts. When a Royal hand attached
  to an invisible body slipped out and withdrew the red and white bouquet
  reposing on the scarlet ledge, the Queen of England seemed a name worth
  dying for."

  Ado

    We really must do more research on VW and the Royal Family.

    In "Street Haunting", when the narrator imagines being in Mayfair, she concludes her reverie with "watching the moonlit cat creep along Princess Mary's garden wall" (The Essays, Vol. IV, p. 486).

    Princess Mary and her husband Lord Lascelles did indeed live in Mayfair, in Chesterfield House -- "where the famous letters were penned" (Ward, Lock Guide to London, 1934, p. 129.  It was on the corner of South Audley Street and Curzon Street, and was demolished in 1937.

    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_Princess_Royal_and_Countess_of_Harewood>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_Princess_Royal_and_Countess_of_Harewood
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesterfield_House,_Westminster>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesterfield_House,_Westminster

    Another footnote is required.

    Stuart

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