[Intl_DxMedPhys] New JAMA IM article on CT radiation dose and future cancers

Dr M. Mahesh MMAHESH at jhmi.edu
Tue Apr 15 09:37:24 EDT 2025


AAPM submitted a press release last evening  and hopefully media group will pick it up and will provide us the opportunity to discuss our stand on this study.

I will post the press release on this platform soon.

Mahesh
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The use of sensationalism and fear tactics is nothing new.  We see it continually used.  The whole Covid debacle is one case in point.  There is a power that we/people get from these types of things. I sent Mark's post on to a bunch of people yesterday so that they would be inoculated from this type of thing.  I guess we will see how this plays out.

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Unfortunately, I just heard this information as a breaking news from our local radio station in my car this morning. Cannot imagine how much more fear they are creating for every patients.



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Thanks for going on the record Mark. In case you missed it, the lead author is also a cofounder of Alara Imaging, the steward of the CT radiation dose CMS measure. On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 8: 29 AM Mark Supanich via Intl_dxmedphys_wd_osu_list

Thanks for going on the record Mark.



In case you missed it, the lead author is also a cofounder of Alara Imaging, the steward of the CT radiation dose CMS measure.





On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 8:29 AM Mark Supanich via Intl_dxmedphys_wd_osu_list <intl_dxmedphys_wd_osu_list at lists.osu.edu<mailto:intl_dxmedphys_wd_osu_list at lists.osu.edu>> wrote:

There's a new article in JAMA internal medicine out predicting a large number of future cancers from CT scans. https: //jamanetwork. com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2832778 The work is entirely statistical in nature, there is no

There's a new article in JAMA internal medicine out predicting a large number of future cancers from CT scans. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2832778__;!!KGKeukY!1Z5Q6qdPYqC5CQLwf8zH9G376YXH7bC3uDe6aNI7MAxtD53uLk9zCVgR6wl1BTtaIRLH6GAQmsiF7BfA8VD2pIPQkEm-kUJgxgYYaJsa$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://secure-web.cisco.com/11c3R7RDCXdOZJAeh-qRdh8RQoy4MIyh-bGKSdYXybKeZeTkvWPCE5cxAVfLiLi0Q2PdKvJolVd8bPwhP3i3nBclYsE_nDLEajdXuRzgjQx9D3NDBU9qufW-DqJI_iU7MvY5L-6euVAPjcz5n6L59StkH6la9egu2M3QYHtegAOfn9_cv9Fr8_h7IalxNPkzALjSfai-BOTNJkjp6oMrcTo7QloFQ01N8iFgsvCHCpxxAhUDOriwE1RmRd4IyhFVjlxA4iKdyZPmqF6OlPh3kifG5QJuaT1X5ECZ8RxP2q4HlbJM6TLcotu4jbem_QNdhKncgqi37ETvCZwngIgqaQw/https*3A*2F*2Furldefense.com*2Fv3*2F__https*3A*2F*2Fjamanetwork.com*2Fjournals*2Fjamainternalmedicine*2Ffullarticle*2F2832778__*3B*21*21KGKeukY*213QiV5I4K5v5DkFeVCQcvqSvpeu1GCW4Xu2kfC-OIisjve02FMcil1jtQ4DKwavLox_91CTk9e1T7WF2R_hfH5GcmWjHVWZJE1htAOpCHDAyPO8c*24__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!KGKeukY!1Reaf_Fky05djN-QBH_RvPNHirWnP17iZGrZc8CdlACOX8map7-euQP6fldftfkSgFYl77xI8nXbDT7PoYly8kxaGJV7khHYGBxQmQCgqgfbcQ$>

 The work is entirely statistical in nature, there is no cohort study or causal link found, just multiplying the presumed very small individual risk of each CT scan times the tens of millions scans done each year. Please read the article and be prepared to discuss it with colleagues, patients, and physicians. A few key points to remember are:
1. When ordered for medically indicated reasons the benefits of CT far outweigh any future risk
2. CT catches cancer earlier, changes and informs diagnosis, and can help patients avoid unnecessary surgeries
3. Research into radiation risk from low levels of ionizing radiation is still a field of research and consensus on what the risk is has not been reached
4. Many CT scans are performed in the last years of patient's lives and those CT scans can't contribute to future cancers (as the latency period for most solid cancers is at least 4 years). The authors only excluded scans that would have been performed in the last year of life from this paper. A more realistic exclusion of 4 or 5 years would significantly reduce the number of theoretical cancer inductions they claim.



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