[Heb-NACO] moladeti or moladti

[Joan Biella]

A similar problem occurs with “hulad(e)ti.”  This could be added to the list, as an example of verbs with this combination of consonants.

Joan

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> On Apr 12, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu> wrote:
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> Thank you, all, for weighing it. I’ve added the word to our romanization FAQ on the wiki (and updated the printable version, too, also attached; may be worth a quick review. J)
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> From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Janet Shamir
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 2:30 AM
> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] moladeti or moladti
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> It's a משקל סגולי. Treat the sheva as you would treat the sheva in words such as כַּלְבִּי or מַחְתַּרְתִּי: moladti.
> I'm assuming those who added the e did it instinctively, or thought it was a sheva na’ based on pronunciation + the segol under the dalet in מולדת.
> The dagesh in the tav is a good sign that the sheva is NOT na’, but with biblical words it's always better to double-check.
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> Janet Shamir
> Hebrew Cataloging Department
> National Library of Israel
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> From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+janet.shamir=nli.org.il at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 1:51 AM
> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> Subject: [Heb-NACO] moladeti or moladti
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> I would think it’s the latter, but there are many records (PCC and DLC) with the former. There is a sheva under the dalet and the taf has a dagesh and a hirik (מוֹלַדְתִּי). As far as I can tell the sheva is not na’ (and if it’s merahef, it’s also disregarded per romanization rules), so then why the e after the d? We’ve long established that pronunciation is not the arbiter, the vocalization is, so what am I missing?
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> Thanks, Jasmin
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> Jasmin Shinohara
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> University of Pennsylvania
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> <rom FAQ printable april_2018.docx>
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