[Heb-NACO] AJL RAS Cataloging Committee and romanization of foreign loan words

[Robert M. TALBOTT]

For what it counts, I agree with Yossi and Joan, which is to say, all loan
words should be treated the same. No deramah, only dramah.

B

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Dickel, Geraldine <
geraldine.dickel at yale.edu> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
>
>
> I have posted the minutes from the 2016 AJL RAS Cataloging Committee
> meeting on the AJL RAS Cataloging Wiki (http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/
> page/117519816/AJL%20RAS%20Cataloging%20Committee%20Meeting-2016).  Thank
> you, Lenore Bell, for taking and writing up the minutes for us – I am very
> grateful.
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> One issue from the meeting that has not yet been resolved is the question
> of the romanization of initial consonant clusters in foreign loan word of
> Greek or Latin origen, such as Deramah/Dramah, words beginning with
> pesikh/psikh, etc., as well as pesefas/psefas.  The members of the AJL RAS
> Catalog committee need to vote on whether or not to change the policy of
> following Alcalay in such cases.  Section 6 of the 2016 meeting minutes
> reports on the discussion of this issue that took place at the committee
> meeting.  The archive of the email discussion of this issue is at
> https://www.mail-archive.com/heb-naco@lists.osu.edu/msg00389.html
>
>
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> On page 19 of Hebraica Cataloging RDA, under Foreign Loan Words, it is
> written:
>
> “The first sheṿa in a foreign loan word with an initial consonantal
> cluster is generally treated as a sheṿa naḥ. For correct romanization it is
> necessary to consult Even-Shoshan and Alcalay on a case-by-case basis.”
>
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> Should we add a line to the manual stating that Alcalay *should not* be
> followed in cases of foreign loan words of Greek or Latin origin.   Should
> all initial shevas in such words be considered to be silent shevas?  Or is
> there some other principle by which we should determine if the initial
> sheva is silent or vocal for these words?  Are there any foreign loan words
> of Greek or Latin origin for which we would not want to treat an initial
> sheva as a silent sheva?
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> I would like to open the “floor” for any additional discussion on this
> matter, prior to calling for a vote on the proposal to change the policy of
> following Alcalay in cases of foreign loan words of Greek or Latin origin.
>
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> Sincerely,
>
> Jerry Anne Dickel (chair)
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Bob Talbott

Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger

UC Berkeley

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I'm just mad about Saffron
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