[Heb-NACO] יומני זהרה
Heidi G Lerner
lerner at stanford.edu
Mon Jul 11 18:20:02 EDT 2016
a kamats katan is recognizable if it
1) is derive from a deficient holam
2) ita appears before a furtive kamats
3) it comes in place of a furtive kamats (a furtive kamats is pronounced like a short kamats
Heidi G. Lerner
Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica
Metadata Dept.
Stanford University Libraries
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From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יומני זהרה
Thank you, Yossi. Hopefully Joan will chime in at some point to clarify the rules…
From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jshino=pobox.upenn.edu at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 6:05 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יומני זהרה
Colleagues
Check ES: vol. 2 pages 478 and 634 it says:
זהרה (קראו: זוהורה)
טהרה (קראו:טוהורה)
Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
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On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Barry Walfish <barry.walfish at utoronto.ca<mailto:barry.walfish at utoronto.ca>> wrote:
So is this just one of those cases where the rules don’t apply and vox populi takes over? Becase hataf kamats should be o for sure. Zohara breaks all the rules.
Dr. Barry Dov Walfish
Judaica and Theology Specialist
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From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu>] On Behalf Of Rachel Leket-Mor
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:54 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO]
יומני זהרה
It is definitely kamats katan.
From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+rachel.leket-mor=asu.edu at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:43 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יומני זהרה
If only there were a “bat signal” to call for Joan… Joan, are you out there? We need you! ☺
From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Barry Walfish
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:35 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יומני זהרה
I would think it should be zahorah and tahorah, because there’s a kamats under the zayin (and tet) and the syllable is open.
Zohar and tohar have a holam haser.
I suspect there may a reason to support Jasmin’s opinion, but I’m not sure what it is.
E.g., Should it be Tahorot or Tohorot? I think both are acceptable but Tahorot makes more sense according to the rules.
Barry
Dr. Barry Dov Walfish
Judaica and Theology Specialist
Collection Development Department and
Thomas Fisher Rare Book Library
University of Toronto Library
130 St. George St.
Toronto, ON
Canada M5S 1A5
Phone: 416-946-3176<tel:416-946-3176> or 416-978-4319<tel:416-978-4319>
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From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+barry.walfish=utoronto.ca at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:14 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco at lists.osu.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יומני זהרה
Oh, ok, sorry. I wasn’t sure if you were adding to or disagreeing with my prior email ☺.
From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:12 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יומני זהרה
Yes, It Is. :-)
Yossi
Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
E-Mail: galron.1 at osu.edu<mailto:galron.1 at osu.edu> or jgalron at gmail.com<mailto:jgalron at gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>> wrote:
But then isn’t it also Zohorah like tohorah?
From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu>] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 5:09 PM
To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] יומני זהרה
Yes, it is Zohar like Tohar
Joseph (Yossi) Galron-Goldschläger
E-Mail: galron.1 at osu.edu<mailto:galron.1 at osu.edu> or jgalron at gmail.com<mailto:jgalron at gmail.com>
Tel.: (614) 292-3362<tel:%28614%29%20292-3362>, Fax: (614)292-1918<tel:%28614%29292-1918>
Lexicon of Modern Hebrew Literature: http://go.osu.edu/hebrewlit
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Shinohara, Jasmin <jshino at pobox.upenn.edu<mailto:jshino at pobox.upenn.edu>> wrote:
FYI, the name זהרהis vocalized the same as the word טהרה, hence it should be vocalized as Zohorah. For those with holdings on ocn884405085, you may wish to update your local record.
Thanks, Jasmin
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Jasmin Shinohara
Hebraica Cataloging Librarian
University of Pennsylvania
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