[Heb-NACO] Mishle with commentary

[Heidi G Lerner]

My pleasure.

Heidi G. Lerner
Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica
Metadata Dept.
Stanford University Libraries
Stanford, CA 94305-6004
ph: 650-725-9953
fax: 650-725-1120
e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu

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From: Robert M. TALBOTT <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 1:03 PM
To: Heidi G Lerner; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Mishle with commentary

Thanks Heidi.

Bob

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Heidi G Lerner <lerner at stanford.edu> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> I agree with your decision on treating it as a compilation.
> We base this decision on  RDA LC-PCC PS 6.27.1.6 which says:
>
> LC-PCC PS for 6.27.1.6
> COMMENTARY, ANNOTATIONS, ILLUSTRATIVE CONTENT, ETC., ADDED TO A PREVIOUSLY EXISTING WORK
> LC practice: If the resource contains the original work and a separate commentary (or commentaries) and the commentary has its own title proper, apply RDA 6.27.1.2 or 6.27.1.4 to the compilation.
>
> However, you will need to determine the preferred access point for the commentary, i.e. since you have determined it is a work unto itself you will need to select the preferred form of the title.
>
> The work was first published in 1910 under the title "Perush ʻal Mishle" as well as 2nd and 3rd editions; and now the title on your recourse  appaear as: Perush Rabenu Yonah mi-Gerondi.
>
> best, Heidi
>
>
> Heidi G. Lerner
> Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica
> Metadata Dept.
> Stanford University Libraries
> Stanford, CA 94305-6004
> ph: 650-725-9953
> fax: 650-725-1120
> e-mail: lerner at stanford.edu
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+lerner=stanford.edu at lists.osu.edu> on behalf of Robert M. TALBOTT <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:44 PM
> To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel
> Subject: [Heb-NACO] Mishle with commentary
>
> Hello folks:
>
> I have a book here on my desk, the cataloging solution for  which I'd
> like to get feedback
>
> The book
>
> Mishle im perush Rabenu Yonah mi-Gerondi ; yotse le-or al-pi kitve yad
> im blah blah blah me-et ha-Rav Yair Avidan.
>
> A quick glance at the text reveals that it contains the full Hebrew
> text of Mishle with about three times as much space given over to the
> commentary.
>
> The common AACR2 solution to cataloging this would have been
>
> 1300  Bible.$pProverbs.$lHebrew.$f 2015
> 24510 Mishle im perush Rabenu Yonah ....
> 7000  Jonah ben Abraham Gerondi
>
> But under RDA?  My proposed solution is to treat this as a
> compilation, and this is where I'd like some feedback
>
> 24500 Mishle im perush ...
> 73002 $iContainer of (expression):$a Bible. ǂp Proverbs. $l Hebrew. $f 2015
> 70002 $iContainer of (work):$a Jonah ben Abraham Gerondi, [dates]. $t
> Perush (Mishle)
>
> So: what do you think?
>
> I ask because this sort of thing, text and commentary, is common, and
> I may be in my usual spot out in the weeds, not far from left field.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
> --
> Bob Talbott
>
> Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger
>
> UC Berkeley
>
> 250 Moffitt
>
> Berkeley, CA 94720
>
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Bob Talbott

Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger

UC Berkeley

250 Moffitt

Berkeley, CA 94720

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