[Heb-NACO] Romanization Question

[Jay Rovner]

I forgot the dictionary tallies of preceding messages.  I have only Alcalay, from which I conclude that we are not here Romanizing a Greek letter. We are, rather, Romanizing a Hebrew word. My Alcalay edition treats pesefas and deramah as Hebrew vocabulary words, vocalizing the first consonant with a sheva, which it does not do for psikholog.  This is not a question of etymology, but of usage. I think that Israeli speakers pronounce the sheva of pesafas if only because that helps them accent the final syllable (unfortunately they ignore a lot of other mobile shevas, ones thatwe  do -- and do not -- regard in our Romanizing).

           JR

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From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Jasmin Shinohara
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 3:53 PM
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Agreed, Neil.  Barry noted the fact that the Greek word starts with a psi.  Does that make any difference to how we want to treat it?
On 11/9/2015 3:31 PM, Neil Manel Frau-Cortes wrote:
… which kind of shows that the issue is not very well solved, IMHO.


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From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 3:23 PM
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Heidi,
I believe our practice was Pesefas and not Psefas.
Yossi
On Nov 9, 2015 3:21 PM, "Heidi G Lerner" <lerner at stanford.edu<mailto:lerner at stanford.edu>> wrote:

Based on the conversation I agree with Yosi.



Unless there is strong disagreement we shall romanize

פסיפס

as "psefas"



Best, Heidi



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From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces at lists.osu.edu>> on behalf of Yossi Galron <jgalron at gmail.com<mailto:jgalron at gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:17 PM
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I wouldn't change our practice.
Just lazy.
Yossi
On Nov 9, 2015 3:11 PM, "sshtuhl" <sshtuhl at upenn.edu<mailto:sshtuhl at upenn.edu>> wrote:
Hi all,
We had an interesting discussion about the Romanization of foreign-loan words. Can we get to any agreement about how to Romanize the word פסיפס?
Thanks,
Smadar

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