[Heb-NACO] Romanization Question

Jasmin Shinohara jshino at pobox.upenn.edu
Thu Nov 5 12:04:28 EST 2015


I'll echo Barry: psikhologyah and psikhiatriyah are vocalized with a 
sheva in ES which we disregard given their status as foreign loan words; 
I'd think that psefas would be treated the same.

Jasmin Shinohara
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On 11/5/2015 11:50 AM, Barry Walfish wrote:
> Actually, in my ES it's pesefas. But I think itshould be treated like psikhologyah or psikhiatriyah, i.e., psefas.
> My two cents.
>
> Barry
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> From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+barry.walfish=utoronto.ca at lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Robert M. TALBOTT
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> Hi Smadar
>
> Looking in ES, the romanization is given as "pesifas," with a citation from Avot. My two cents on the matter is that though this is a loan word, it's been in the language long enough to be naturalized.
>
> When in doubt, check the HCM:
> http://online.sfsu.edu/biella/HCM2/hcm.html.  Click on  "Hebrew and Yiddish romanization" then scroll down to "Foreign loan words." We are apparently no longer obliged to check Alcalay, though it's still of use.
>
> Bob
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> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:01 AM, sshtuhl <sshtuhl at upenn.edu> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I have a question about the word פסיפס, which is originated from
>> Greek. As a foreign-loan word it should be Romanized as 'psefas' but
>> in entries it appears as 'pesefas'. Does anyone have any thoughts on this discrepancy?
>> Thanks,
>> Smadar
>>
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