[Heb-NACO] 264 in RDA - publisher not identified

Fri Oct 25 10:18:03 EDT 2013

This may have to do with what your institution filters out on the public display of FirstSearch. You may want to talk with your systems persons.

Neil M. Frau-Cortes

Hebraica Cataloger
McKeldin Library
University of Maryland
College Park, MD 20742
Phone (301) 405-9337
nfrau at umd.edu

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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] 264 in RDA - publisher not identified

See for example 824522432. The Hebrew 264 does not display on the public view of OCLC (WorldCat). Once one adds an additional Hebrew 260, it does show up. So it means that the Hebrew 264 has some display compatibility issues, I think…

From: heb-naco-bounces+kolodney=austin.utexas.edu at lists.service.ohio-state.edu<mailto:heb-naco-bounces+kolodney=austin.utexas.edu at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+kolodney=austin.utexas.edu at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Kolodney, Uri
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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] 264 in RDA - publisher not identified

I'm not at my desk at the moment, so will send an example tomorrow morning.
Thanks,
Uri

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Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2013 4:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] 264 in RDA - publisher not identified
Hi, my comments were made with regard to OCLC Connnexion and not the WorldCat view. I am not sure why things would be different though.

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From: "Uri Kolodney" <kolodney at austin.utexas.edu<mailto:kolodney at austin.utexas.edu>>
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Subject: RE: [Heb-NACO] 264 in RDA - publisher not identified

Great, thanks!
Now, regarding the instance of records with both 264 and 260  - is this because of display issues? I noticed that the transliterated 264 does not show up on WorldCat view. Is this so?
Thanks,
Uri

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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] 264 in RDA - publisher not identified
Hi Uri,
We use [publisher not identified] in both romanized and Hebrew script fields. RDA 1.4 tell  us which following elements to record in the language and script in which they appear on the sources from which they are taken. It then goes on to tell us "Record all other elements (including notes) in a language and script, or languages and scripts, preferred by the agency creating the data.".Generally, most North American libraries and all PCC libraries use English as the preferred language.

Best, Heidi

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Subject: [Heb-NACO] 264 in RDA - publisher not identified

Could someone please help me clarify the correct form of the sub-field b in 264 in RDA when there is no publisher?
I see different versions and managed to get confused.
I know it should be [publisher not identified], but what do I put in the transliterated field? The same wording in English? Or maybe the good old “s.n.” or maybe “motsi la-or eno mezuheh” ? :)

Thanks,
Uri
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Uri Kolodney
Hebrew & Jewish Studies Librarian / Acting Librarian for Russian & Slavic Studies
University of Texas Libraries
The University of Texas at Austin
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Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Keter Aram Tsoveh

Aleppo codex

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On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Judith Zupnick <judiezup at msn.com<mailto:judiezup at msn.com>> wrote:
What/who is the Keter Aram Tsoveh? And should it be capitalized (in the Romanization} as follows? :

" 'al pi ha-mesorah Keter Aram Tsoveh"

Thanks!
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