[Heb-NACO] Fwd: [PCCLIST] Incomplete dates in personal name access points

[Heidi G Lerner]

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From: "Paul Frank" <pfrank at LOC.GOV> 
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Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:29:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Incomplete dates in personal name access points 



Mary Charles, 

For the same reason(s) you might optionally add a death date to an open birth date in an authorized access point, you can optionally add a birth date to an open death date in an authorized access point. These are two exceptions to the general NACO principle that changes are not made to an authorized access points unless the authorized access point contains an error. 

The LC-PCC PS to document this will be published on July 9, but it is ok to apply the option now. 

Paul 


Paul Frank 
Cooperative Programs Section 
Cooperative and Instructional Programs Division 
Library of Congress 
101 Independence Ave., SE 
Washington, DC 20540-4230 
202-707-1570 
pfrank at loc.gov 





From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [ mailto:PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV ] On Behalf Of Lasater, Mary Charles 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:28 AM 
To: PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV 
Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Incomplete dates in personal name access points 

Has there been any further discussion on this? 

I just ran into the authority record for Breece D'J Pancake who died in 1979. I added his birth info to the 046 field, but would really like to ‘complete’ his dates in the 100 field of the authority record. The information was readily available. I am currently reviewing the loads of the modified Phase 2 records and ‘running into’ many records that could be changed. I am sure others are as well. By delaying a decision to add birth and well as death dates, we are missing an opportunity to make our AAPs more complete. 

Mary Charles Lasater 



From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [ mailto:PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV ] On Behalf Of Reser, Dave 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:28 PM 
To: PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV 
Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Incomplete dates in personal name access points 

That's an excellent question, Ryan-- we were talking about that very question here at LC yesterday! We decided it was time to move that question on to a consultation stage with the PCC/SCS and OCLC, but with the PCC Operations Committee meeting here today and tomorrow, we just haven't had a chance. 
Thanks for raising it, 
Dave Reser 
LC PSD 



From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [ mailto:PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV ] On Behalf Of Finnerty, Ryan 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:15 PM 
To: PCCLIST at LISTSERV.LOC.GOV 
Subject: Incomplete dates in personal name access points 

Hi PCC-List, 

We’ve been allowed for some time to add death dates to access points that only have an open birth date (there are tons more of these now that “b.” has been eliminated), so are we allowed to extend this thinking further and add the birth year to an access point if it only has the death year? (there are also tons of these now with the elimination of “d.”) 

In this example the birth year is already right there in the 670. I’d like to add it because the authorized access point just looks incomplete to me, but I realize that this would have ramifications for data management, OCLC’s closed dates list (would it catch these?), etc. 

010 n 81104301 
040 DLC ǂ b eng ǂ e rda ǂ c DLC ǂ d OCoLC ǂ d DLC 
046 ǂ g 1654 
1001 Fabritius, Carel, ǂ d -1654 
4001 Fabricius, Karel, ǂ d -1654 
4001 Fabritius, Carel, ǂ d d. 1654 ǂ w nnea 
4001 Fabritius, Carolus, ǂ d -1654 
4001 Fabritius, Karel, ǂ d -1654 
670 Encyc. brit., 1972 ǂ b (hdg.: Fabritius, Carel (Carel [Carolus] Pietersz) 1622-1654) 

What do you all think? 

Ryan J. Finnerty | Head, Database Management & NACO Coordinator 
UC San Diego Library | Metadata Services Department 
rfinnerty at ucsd.edu | (858) 822-3138 


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