[Heb-NACO] period of activity and the 046

[Heidi G Lerner]

p.s. After reviewing this situation with a colleague we came to the conclusion that the tilda is not necessary when coding the date of activity in a delimiter "s" in the 046. We use the tilda when a date is "approximated".  So Bob's case the dates in the 046 would be $s[1843,1844]. 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Robert Talbott" <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu> 
To: "Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> 
Cc: "Heidi G Lerner" <lerner at stanford.edu> 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 5:31:53 PM 
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] period of activity and the 046 

Thanks Heidi.  That helps 

On 10/22/2012 1:30 PM, Heidi G Lerner wrote: 




Hi Bob, 
  
 I did check DCM Z1 under MARC Field 046 and the guidelines state: 
  
"For probable, uncertain, and approximated dates use the Extended Date Time Format (EDTF) schema, specifying that source in subfield $2 (edtf).  See date table in LCPS 9.3.1.3 . 
  
 Evidently $s does not just apply to corporate bodies but also peopls as in the example provided: 
  
046 ## $s -0199~ $2 edtf 
100 0# $a Hellanicus $c (Grammarian),$d active approximately 200 B.C. 
670 ## $a Brill's new Pauly online, Aug. 2, 2011 $b (Hellanicus; Alexandrian grammarian; ca. 200 BC) 
  
  
Based on the above and how I think it would be constructed according to EDTF is: 
  
ǂs[1843,1844]~ǂ2edtf 
  
If others think that it should be done another way, I am very happy to learn. 
  
Thanks, Heidi 
  
  
  
----- Original Message -----

From: "Robert Talbott" <rtalbott at library.berkeley.edu> 
To: "Hebrew Name Authority Funnel" <heb-naco at lists.service.ohio-state.edu> 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:56:39 AM 
Subject: [Heb-NACO] period of activity and the 046 

Folks: 

Yet another open letter to Joan and Heidi: 

I'm having a difficult time coding the 046 for an "active" date. The 
person in question, ha-tsa'ir Yitshak Elisha', S.t, not only had his 
named stamped on the cover of the book in hand, but also felt obliged to 
note the date he acquired the in-hand manuscript: 604 [1843 or 1844]. 

So, the rules say to prefer a solid date to a century date.  Odd, but 
I'm okay with that.  Thus his 1xx $d will read $d active 1843 or 1844, 
and per the rules, we like the form [1843, 1844]$2edtf for the 046. But 
how do I code this in the 046? $f/$g seems to be devoted exclusively to 
birth and death, while $s/$t apparently cover the creation/dissolution 
of corporate entities. 

Thanks in advance. 

Cheers 

Bob 

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