[Heb-NACO] RDA 6.3.3.3 Parallel titles anxiety

Thu Oct 11 17:16:00 EDT 2012

Sorry all, 
I meant solution 2 just as Joan did. Hopefully my comments reflect that. 

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From: "Jasmin Nof" <jnof at upenn.edu> 
To: "Joan Biella" <jbie at loc.gov>, "Heidi G Lerner" <lerner at stanford.edu> 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:08:25 PM 
Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] RDA 6.3.3.3 Parallel titles anxiety 

sorry, but now i'm confused: heidi said solution 1, i.e. 

24510Kir'u li ve-avo : $b shirim / $c et cetera 
2461  $i Parallel title from title page verso : $a Call me and I shall come : $b poems 

joan said solution 2, i.e. 

245 10 ǂa Ḳirʼu li ṿe-avo : ǂb shirim = Call me and I shall come : poems / ǂc Z'aḳi Barḳan. 

which is it? 

On 10/11/2012 4:37 PM, Biella, Joan wrote: 

Under RDA we have to accept a much broader application of the term "parallel title" than we were accustomed to in AACR2.  RDA calls any title a "parallel title" which is equivalent to the title proper in another language and/or script, whether or not it appears in the same source as the title proper.  In fact the AACR2 official definition was just the same, but we didn't apply it so widely.  The practical result is that we see a lot more parallel titles in RDA, and all of them have to be recorded in the 245. 

It's not much use looking at the so-called "examples" in RDA, because they only show you one "element" (usually, "subfield") at a time and don't give any information about how to hook them together.  But this is the way to hook them together: 

245 10 ǂa Ḳirʼu li ṿe-avo : ǂb shirim = Call me and I shall come : poems / ǂc Z'aḳi Barḳan. 
246 1   ǂi Title on title page verso: ǂa Call me and I shall come : ǂb poems 

An irritating side feature of this is that you have to switch scripts in the 880 for the 245 in order to include the roman-script parallel title. 

Of course, if this is a collection of two or more but not all of Mr. Barḳan's poems, you'll also need a conventional collective uniform title "Poems. ǂk Selections" per instruction 6.2.2.10.3.  But you knew that. 

Joan 

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From: heb-naco-bounces+jbie=loc.gov at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [ mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jbie=loc.gov at lists.service.ohio-state.edu ] On Behalf Of Robert Talbott 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:53 PM 
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Subject: [Heb-NACO] RDA 2.3.3.3 Parallel title anxiety 

Folks: 

Per RDA 2.3.3.3, which is correct for the following situation? 

T.p. sez: Kir'u li ve-avo : shirim 
T.p. verso sez: Call me and I shall come : poems 

solution 1) 

24510Kir'u li ve-avo : $b shirim / $c et cetera 
2461  $i Parallel title from title page verso : $a Call me and I shall come : $b poems 

or 

solution 2) 

24510Kir'u li ve-avo : $b shirim = Call me and I shall come : poems / $c et cetera 24631Call me and I shall come : $b poems 

I like option 1 as it seems to fit the scheme depicted in the rule, but I've seen Hebrew RDA records out there following solution #2 and I'd like to make sure I'm on the same page as most everyone else. 

Cheers 

Bob 

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