[Heb-NACO] Romanization of non-Hebrew proper nouns

Fryser, Benjamin bfry at loc.gov
Mon Nov 28 11:27:37 EST 2011


In order to preserve the natural and expected pronunciation of the word Mario I would romanize מריו or מאריו
as Maryo rather than Mariyo.   This is my bias and does not reflect official LC practice.         
                                             Benjamin

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Is there a difference between saying that the Italian name "Mario" should be "romanized" as "Mario" rather than "Mariyo" and saying that the German name "Goldstein" should be "romanized" as "Goldstein" rather than "Goldshtain"?

Joan


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From: heb-naco-bounces+jbie=loc.gov at lists.service.ohio-state.edu [mailto:heb-naco-bounces+jbie=loc.gov at lists.service.ohio-state.edu] On Behalf Of Aaron Kuperman
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Subject: [Heb-NACO] Romanization of non-Hebrew proper nouns

A similar question to the issue for Breslev/Braslav is raised whenever we encounter a proper noun that is written in Hebrew without nekudot. I recall a recent argument over the Italian/English forename "Mario" which based on the internet is uniformly romanized, and I believe pronounced, by users of that forename the same way it is written in Italian and English
-- yet according to current policy is romanized in catalog records as if it was a Hebrew word, leading to a romanization that it unrecognizable.


Perhaps there should be a rule that non-Hebrew proper nouns should be romanized based on how users routinely romanize them, rather than trying to base a rule that applies Hebrew grammatical principles to non-Hebrew words.

And yes, I am primarily a subject cataloger who believes access points should reflect user needs rather than cataloger convenience (though in some ways RDA is moving more in that direction, at least in theory, at least according to Barbara Tillet).

Aaron Wolfe Kuperman
Library of Congress, ABA USPL, Law Cataloging Section



This is DEFINITELY NOT an official communication from the Library of Congress.

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