Exp 3 (DRL) help - both pre and post lab, using Excel

robert zellmer zellmer.1 at osu.edu
Wed Jun 21 08:58:21 EDT 2017


The next exp is exp 3 (DRL).  This is a modified version of exp 3 in the
manual.  You'll find the new lab manual pages on Carmen.

This is a reminder to look at my help files for exp 3 (DRL).  I have 
both pre-lab
and post-lab hints and help.  I've tried to change things from my old 
files to
coordinate with the new modified exp.  Let me know if you see something
which doesn't seem to match up with the new exp.

There is both a pre-lab and post-lab on Carmen for exp 3.

Please look at the pre-lab help before going  to lab.  You are making three
solutions by mixing Cr^3+ and EDTA- resulting in different conc. of Cr^3+
in each solution.  You should have a table like Table 3.1 on page 9 of the
manual.  You may not necessarily have the exact values for the volumes of
the Cr(NO3)3 since you are using a buret (you shouldn't even try to get
those exact volumes since it can take longer than necessary).  You will
record the actual volumes of the Cr(NO3)2 solution you measure.

A *10*-mL pipet is being used for the EDTA.  You use it to measure out a
total of 20-mL of EDTA in each test tube.

Each partner should have 3 LARGE test tubes (the ones marked as 75-mL
with the large openings), marked 1-3.  One partner measures out the Cr^3+
and the other measures out the EDTA.

For the data collection of the absorbances of the three solutions, you 
want a
*SINGLE* table for the time and absorbance data for the four solutions on a
single page.  You should have a table with 8 columns, in groups of two for
each solution, marked something like

soln 1 	
	soln 2
	
	soln 3 	
time (min)
	Abs
	time (min) 	Abs 	time (min) 	Abs

	
	
	
	
	


This table should be big enough to record at least 15 lines of time and 
Abs data.

You will also need to have space for recording the initial conc. of the 
Cr^3+ in
each soln., the conc. of the CrEDTA- product and the absorbance values 
for the
product in the boiled solutions.

The following links should be helpful.  The 2nd link is the replacement 
link for
the one Dr. Moga sent in her 2nd e-mail.  I spent several hours updating 
the old
link to hopefully coincide with the modified experiment.


*Laboratory* 
<http://chemistry.osu.edu/%7Erzellmer/chem1220/lab/lab_1220.htm> (see 
stuff dealing with exp 3)

*Pre and Post-lab Help for Exp 3 - (Answers to Students' Questions)* 
<http://chemistry.osu.edu/%7Erzellmer/chem1220/faq/exp3_DRL_help.txt>

*Handout for Exp. 3 - Report Tips (Data Analysis)* 
<http://chemistry.osu.edu/%7Erzellmer/chem1220/lab/exp3_DRL_tips.pdf>

I HIGHLY suggest you use Excel (or something similar) to do the data 
tables, calculations and graphs.

*Exp 3 - Using MS Excel* 
<http://chemistry.osu.edu/%7Erzellmer/chem1220/lab/exp17/exp17.htm>

There are a lot of calculations (a minimum of 180).  If you make a 
mistake you often don't realize
it until you do graph 2 (1st-order plot).  Then you have to go back and 
redo almost all the calculations.
Using Excel makes the whole process easier, even if you don't make a 
mistake.

More to follow...

Dr. Zellmer
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