Scores in Carmen and total score - grade now, projecting your grade, etc.
Zellmer, Robert
zellmer.1 at osu.edu
Fri Sep 30 14:22:38 EDT 2022
I got the following question from a student after quiz 4:
"The quiz which was just posted on Carmen and my recitation grade changed drastically.
Is it because the two lowest quiz grades were already automatically dropped before and
it was only considering my one best score. Now it's using quiz 4 (my lowest score) as
one of the dropped quizzes?"
The answer at this point is yes, it would be. We're dropping the lowest 2 quiz scores.
We've had only 4 quizzes. Thus, at this point Carmen is dropping 2 of the 4 quiz scores
and only including your two best scores in the recitation average. At the end of the
semester, we will have had a total of 12 quizzes. The 2 lowest scores won't count toward
your final recitation average, only the 10 highest will go toward your average. This will be
a total of 400 possible points from quizzes in the recitation score.
Furthermore, for the recitation average it's averaging 2 quizzes with all the attendance
scores to this point. Most people are getting 10/10 for every recitation. That's good, it
means you're attending. At the end of the semester, we'll be dropping (excusing) your
2 lowest attendance scores. For most of you who wind up attending all the recitations
we'll be dropping (excusing) 2 attendance scores which are 10/10 so your total from the
attendance won't really change. At the end of the semester 10/12 attendance scores
(100 total possible points) will be included in your recitation score. At this point in the
semester Monday recitations have 4 attendance scores and Wed. and Fri. have 5
attendance scores.
Sometimes people want to play around in Carmen to see where they truly stand at this
point after the first midterm. You can enter scores for the remaining parts of the course.
To do this you'll need to do a few other things first. The grading scale for the course
is in the syllabus. It is a fixed grading scale, no curve. Remember though, since we
have quizzes we'll take that into account at the end in some way. Even so, ignore that
for now.
If you want to get a better idea of your Recitation total at this point, we've had 4 quizzes
worth 40 pts each for a total of 160 pts. For Mon. recitations you've had 4 recitations
worth 40 pts total and Wed and Fri recitations you've had 5 recitations for a total of 50 pts.
Don't drop anything. Average all 4 quizzes and recitation attendance scores. Here's an
example for Wed. recitations. Let's say your 4 quizzes total to 100 pts out of 160 total pts
(62.5%) and you have 50/50 for recitation (100%). That's a total of 150/210 pts, or an
average for recitation of 71.4% . Note recitation helped raise your average for recitation.
So, assuming you'll have a 62.5% on the quizzes and 100% for recitation attendance
use 71% to estimate your overall recitation score.
The average on Mastering at this point is 70%. This includes people who haven't done any
MC and those who've actually dropped the course. They don't get removed from MC so
their scores are still figured into the MC average, even though at the end they won't be.
It should show you your average so far. You can use this average for your on-line
homework portion if you're playing around in Carmen with your scores.
Right now, even if you have a high recitation score, MC score and lab score I would be
more concerned with your midterm score. It is probably a better indicator of where you
stand right now. If your midterm score doesn't reflect your score on the quizzes and MC
it could mean you're not retaining the information. That may mean you need to change
you're studying habits. If you didn't attend a "How to Learn" session, watch the recorded
one from the start of the semester. It's in the Lecture Module in Carmen. You might also
make an appt to speak to me.
There's also a link below that will help with this and may be easier to use than Carmen.
Do what I've indicated above for the Recitation and Mastering portions of the course.
Use the percentages for lab and MT 1. Then you can "play around" with scores for
midterms 2 and 3 and the final. First use the percentage you got on midterm 1 for
the midterms 2 and 3 and the final to see what your course percentage would be.
Then you can estimate what you would need on the remaining exams to get your
desired grade.
https://uglabs.cbc.osu.edu/1210/grades-projector.html
After having said all the above, I'm not sure it's that helpful, except to see if you may be
in real danger of not passing. If you figure out right now you need 80% on everything from
this point on to get a C+ (because you only have 50% right now) and shoot for the 80%
don't be surprised if you might not make it. You shouldn't be "shooting" for a score other
than 100%. Simply try as hard as you can for the remainder of the course. Change how
you're doing things. Make sure you're following the things I've said to do in the "How to
Learn" video. Get more help. Come to office hours. Do the best you can do. Don't just
try to slide in above a certain score.
If feel you're really in dire straits feel free to e-mail me and we can set up a meeting.
Dr. Zellmer
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