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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Californian FB",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I am so happy to know this! Thank you, Stuart. It sounds like an incredible discovery. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Californian FB",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Californian FB",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>BTW, my research suggests that Woolf’s claim that the officers of the <i>Hawke </i>were in on the <i>Dreadnought </i>Hoax is probably not true. As I write in <i>The Girl Prince: </i><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Californian FB",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It was quite impossible for the <i>Hawke</i>’s officers to have been observ­ing the hoax from the deck of their ship. On 7 February 1910, the <i>Hawke </i>was anchored near Buoy 26, off Sheerness in the Thames estuary, while the <i>Dreadnought </i>was in Portland Harbour, more than 150 miles away.  (189)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Californian FB",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Vwoolf <vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 17, 2024 7:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> vwoolf@lists.osu.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Wreck of HMS Hawke discovered (cont'd)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:.75pt'><span style='font-size:1.0pt;color:white'>So we can probably assume that at least some of those officers who were having ‘a gay time’ in 1910 were blown up in 1914. Also, British warships were not as well designed as German ones, defensively. It was all to do with the location and storage<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>So we can probably assume that at least some of those officers who were having ‘a gay time’ in 1910 were blown up in 1914.  Also, British warships were not as well designed as German ones, defensively.  It was all to do with the location and storage of the shells below deck, and the use of the dumb waiter bringing them up on deck for loading.  This perhaps explains why the ship blew up and sank so quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> Saturday, August 17, 2024 9:34 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> [Vwoolf] Wreck of HMS Hawke discovered<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-line-height-alt:.75pt'><span style='font-size:1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:white'>www. bbc. co. uk/news/articles/c9qg4z1149eo It features in the ‘Dreadnought’ Hoax: see Essays VI 563, 570, 572, 575, 577n9. Stuart ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qg4z1149eo__;!!KGKeukY!0OiLjKmB-qdUC4JYPPTulld--Xz7HZ5FMLMfPD80oeI_5kBE4EOVp7tk2bQ82YGH63N9tKBWttpDm6Fhb6hVZf3b-kkN_rYxQw$">www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qg4z1149eo</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>It features in the ‘Dreadnought’ Hoax: see Essays VI 563, 570, 572, 575, 577n9.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>