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<DIV>David Bradshaw and I finished off – sorry, completed – the Shakespeare Head
Edition of VW with Room in 2015. The first vol. appeared in 1992 (yes,
1992 – don’t tell students who delay handing in their papers!), and over the
years there was considerable controversy over the choice of copy texts. We
chose the 1st UK edn. “We have resisted”, I wrote (sounds like me), “the
temptation to adopt two substantive variants from the US editions ... Similarly
, we have not adopted from later Hogarth Press printings Woolf’s comment about
women, ‘I like their subtlety’ (p. 80), being succeeded by ‘I like their
completeness’” (p. xxv).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Apart from some unimportant punctuation and layout changes, we made only 3
emendations: ‘reason that[n] that’, Casaubon misspelled, ‘there was [a]
fence’.</DIV>
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<DIV>I compared the 1st Hogarth with the first 2 US editions, and then with 7
Hogarth impressions. The latter brought in a very meagre haul. Apart
from ‘I like their completeness’ in all 7, ‘Life of Miss Emily Davies’ was
corrected to ‘Emily Davies and Girton College’ from the 4th imp. onwards.</DIV>
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<DIV>As for checking pointless editions (i.e. ones to which VW could have had no
input), I’m sure that the Penguin Books edition of 1945 has mistakes, and I
believe that it was used for the Penguin edition of 1963, which has more.</DIV>
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<DIV>Although I says it as shouldn’t, I think our edition is the best currently
available. Unfortunately, it is expensive. Not only that, it is
printed on thin paper and when you hold ‘this slim volume’ of xxx, 162 pp. in
your hands, you hardly feel you’ve got value for money. Not only that, but
c. 20 errors crept in, mainly to the notes, although they had been OK on a
previous round of proofs: e.g. some books and journals lost their italics.</DIV>
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<DIV>Stuart</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=vwoolf@lists.osu.edu>Edward
Mendelson via Vwoolf</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 8, 2024 11:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=emily.kopley@gmail.com>Emily Kopley</A> ; <A
title=vwoolf@lists.osu.edu>vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf's marked copies of her
books?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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Emily and all, Thank you for this! Julia Briggs’ essay is terrific - and she is
surely right to say that more or less everyone’s agreement to use the first
English edition as the text for the Penguin editions needs to be revised.
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<DIV>Thank you for this! Julia Briggs’ essay is terrific - and she is surely
right to say that more or less everyone’s agreement to use the first English
edition as the text for the Penguin editions needs to be revised. Thank you
again!</DIV>
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<DIV>Edward</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>
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<DIV>On Aug 8, 2024, at 1:33 PM, Emily Kopley via Vwoolf
<vwoolf@lists.osu.edu> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>Hi All, </DIV>
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<DIV>A belated reply to Edward's question about the word changed between
impressions of AROO. The first UK and US editions have, "The truth is, I often
like women. I like their unconventionality. I like their subtlety. I like
their anonymity." But the second UK impression has "...their
unconventionality. I like their completeness..." In short, VW turns "subtlety"
to "completeness." This was pointed out by Julia Briggs in Essay 14 of
her<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><I>Reading Virginia
Woolf</I>, "Between the Texts: Virginia Woolf's Acts of Revision," p.
208.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV>Emily<BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 11:14 AM Stuart N.
Clarke via Vwoolf <<A target=_blank>vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</A>>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I think not: ‘him’ *was* the problem. Grammatically, it refers to
Joseph 8 ll. up.</DIV>
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<DIV>Stuart</DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)">
<DIV><B>From:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=zoeguttenplan@gmail.com>Zoe Guttenplan</A></DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Saturday,
July 27, 2024 2:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com>Stuart N. Clarke</A></DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=vwoolf@lists.osu.edu>vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</A></DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re:
[Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf's marked copies of her books?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>This is fascinating. From my typesetting experience, I know that a
gappy line is just as much of a problem as a tight one. It is therefore also
possible (technically, though less convincing perhaps) that her intention
was to cut the “after all” and the insertion of “Peter Walsh” was merely to
fill the extra space.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Zoe</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>
<DIV class=gmail_attr dir=ltr>On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 at 13:22, Stuart N. Clarke
via Vwoolf <<A>vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>It has been remarked that, since VW knew from her own experience the
practicalities involved in setting type, when she altered a line in a
reprint she was careful to ensure that that line did not spill over onto
the following line. Thus, in this instance,<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“Yet, after all, how much she owed to him later.”
became<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT><SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“Yet how much she owed Peter Walsh later.” (p.
56).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>If one were editing the text, it would be reasonable to argue
that what VW ‘really’ wanted was to amend it to<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“Yet, after all, how much she owed to Peter Walsh
later.”<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN>Stuart<U></U><U></U></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
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<DIV><B>From:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=mhussey@verizon.net>mhussey@verizon.net</A></DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Friday,
July 26, 2024 4:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com>'Stuart N. Clarke'</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=edward.mendelson@columbia.edu>'Edward Mendelson'</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
title=vwoolf@lists.osu.edu>vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</A></DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>RE:
[Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf's marked copies of her books?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">For what it’s worth, in
the ‘Definitive’ (!!!) Hogarth edition issued in 1990 G. Patton Wright
says: ‘Virginia Woolf died in 1941, so the last edition she could possibly
have overseen was E4, published in 1942. Given the state of her health,
her depression, and the unfinished work on her last novel<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><I>Between the Acts</I>, it is
reasonable to conclude that she would have taken little interest in a new
edition of<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><I>Mrs.
Dalloway</I>, one printed according to restrictions of the wartime
economy. Previoously, the next latest edition she might have corrected was
the “Uniform Edition” (E3), published by Hogarth in 1929 and reissued in
1933. A collation of this text against E1 reveals that it is not entirely
a photo-offset reprint as Kirkpatrick claims. For example, on page 56,
when Clarissa recalls her experiences with Peter Walsh at Bourton, both E1
and E2 read: “Yet, after all, how much she owed to him later.” However, E3
reads: “Yet how much she owed Peter Walsh later.”<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Et cetera !! I agree with
BJK that it seems impossible to produce any error-free book (speaking as
someone who spent about four years ‘editing’ Between the Acts and missed a
real howler…).<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Vwoolf
<vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=<A>verizon.net@lists.osu.edu</A>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Stuart N. Clarke via
Vwoolf<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Friday, July 26, 2024 9:54
AM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Edward
Mendelson <<A>edward.mendelson@columbia.edu</A>>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A>vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf's
marked copies of her books?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt; COLOR: white">I am not
aware of the differences in the reset edition of Mrs Dalloway in 1942, but
it was reset because of wartime requirements: "some of Woolf’s books that
Leonard decided had to be reprinted would have resulted in a profligate
use of the<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I am not aware of the
differences in the reset edition of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><EM><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">Mrs Dalloway</SPAN></EM><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>in 1942, but it was reset because
of wartime requirements:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">"some of Woolf’s books
that Leonard decided had to be reprinted would have resulted in a
profligate use of the paper quota. Mrs. Dalloway appears to have
been an unfortunate example. When it was published in 1925, it ran
to 294 pages; my sample page (177) has 223 words. Owing to the paper
shortage, Leonard must have decided in 1941 to have it reset, reducing it
to 252 pages; my sample page (149), which describes almost the same scene
as the corresponding sample page in the first edition, has 270
words. It was published early in 1942 and therefore should have had
323 words to the page, but it would not have needed to comply with the
Agreement as the typesetting would have begun before 1 January 1942; it
does not carry the economy declaration. In 1946, Chatto & Windus
‘took under its management the Hogarth Press’ (Warner 23) and decided to
issue Mrs. Dalloway under its Zodiac Press imprint. It is hard to
believe nowadays, when labour costs so much and goods so comparatively
little, that the novel had to be reset once again, so that it could be
printed in 1947 ‘in complete conformity with the authorised economy
standards’ ([4]). Now it was reduced to 216 pages of a slightly
larger size than in 1942, and my sample page (129) reaches the target with
322 words." (<EM><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">VWB</SPAN></EM><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>no. 51, p.
33)<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Someone (Leonard? John
Lehmann?) would have found a copy of Mrs D – hopefully the 2nd imp., but
more likely the Uniform of 1929 or its reprint of 1933 (I haven’t seen a
copy, but it was probably the last time ‘destestable’ appeared) – and
chucked it over to the printers of the Garden City Press in Letchworth,
Herts (where the Hogarth Press itself was now located), and told to get on
with it. Someone might just possibly have remembered an additional
correction or corrections (kept in a folder, even), and someone,
hopefully, would have checked the text when it came back from the
printers. Someone must have noticed ‘destestable’. It’s
wartime, but this is probably how it would have happened in peacetime,
too. (For a considerable number of mistakes in VW’s essays collected
in<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><EM><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">Granite and
Rainbow</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>(1958),
see<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><EM><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: calibri, sans-serif">VWB</SPAN></EM><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>no. 51, pp.
35-6.)<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">B. J. Kirkpatrick told me
that she had visited a printer’s, and wondered how any book got produced
correctly!<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">By the way, by comparing
the 1942 text with the 1st edn, the 2nd imp., and the 1929 Uniform, you
may be able to deduce which was used to produce that new 1942
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Subject: [Vwoolf]
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Two copies of The Voyage
Out marked by the author for revision are known to exist. Does anyone know
where marked copies might be of her other books? I’m asking in the hope
that a marked copy might exist that would give some evidence for the
authority (if any) for the changes made in the reset edition of Mrs
Dalloway in 1942. My guess is that no such copy is known, or we would all
know about it, but it seemed to be worth asking. All information will be
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