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<div dir="auto">This is fascinating. From my typesetting experience, I know that a gappy line is just as much of a problem as a tight one. It is therefore also possible (technically, though less convincing perhaps) that her intention was to cut the “after all” and the insertion of “Peter Walsh” was merely to fill the extra space.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Zoe</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 at 13:22, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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It has been remarked that, since VW knew from her own experience the practicalities involved in setting type, when she altered a line in a reprint she was careful to ensure that that line did not spill over onto the following line. Thus, in</div>
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<div>It has been remarked that, since VW knew from her own experience the
practicalities involved in setting type, when she altered a line in a reprint
she was careful to ensure that that line did not spill over onto the following
line. Thus, in this instance, <font style="FONT-SIZE:11pt">“Yet, after
all, how much she owed to him later.” became </font><span><font style="FONT-SIZE:11pt">“Yet how much she owed Peter Walsh later.” (p.
56).</font></span></div>
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<div><span>If one were editing the text, it would be reasonable to argue that
what VW ‘really’ wanted was to amend it to <font style="FONT-SIZE:11pt">“Yet,
after all, how much she owed to Peter Walsh later.” </font></span></div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-US" style="WORD-WRAP:break-word" dir="ltr" vlink="#954f72" link="#0563c1"><div dir="ltr"><div style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000">
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<div><span>Stuart<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="mhussey@verizon.net">mhussey@verizon.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 26, 2024 4:47 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com">'Stuart N. Clarke'</a> ;
<a title="edward.mendelson@columbia.edu">'Edward Mendelson'</a> ; <a title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf's marked copies of her
books?</div></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt">For what it’s worth, in the
‘Definitive’ (!!!) Hogarth edition issued in 1990 G. Patton Wright says:
‘Virginia Woolf died in 1941, so the last edition she could possibly have
overseen was E4, published in 1942. Given the state of her health, her
depression, and the unfinished work on her last novel <i>Between the Acts</i>,
it is reasonable to conclude that she would have taken little interest in a new
edition of <i>Mrs. Dalloway</i>, one printed according to restrictions of the
wartime economy. Previoously, the next latest edition she might have corrected
was the “Uniform Edition” (E3), published by Hogarth in 1929 and reissued in
1933. A collation of this text against E1 reveals that it is not entirely a
photo-offset reprint as Kirkpatrick claims. For example, on page 56, when
Clarissa recalls her experiences with Peter Walsh at Bourton, both E1 and E2
read: “Yet, after all, how much she owed to him later.” However, E3 reads: “Yet
how much she owed Peter Walsh later.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt">Et cetera !! I agree with BJK
that it seems impossible to produce any error-free book (speaking as someone who
spent about four years ‘editing’ Between the Acts and missed a real
howler…).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt"> Vwoolf
<vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=<a href="mailto:verizon.net@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">verizon.net@lists.osu.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 26, 2024 9:54
AM<br><b>To:</b> Edward Mendelson <<a href="mailto:edward.mendelson@columbia.edu" target="_blank">edward.mendelson@columbia.edu</a>>;
<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf's marked
copies of her books?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:1pt;COLOR:white">I am not aware of the differences in the
reset edition of Mrs Dalloway in 1942, but it was reset because of wartime
requirements: "some of Woolf’s books that Leonard decided had to be reprinted
would have resulted in a profligate use of the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">I am not aware of
the differences in the reset edition of <em><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri",sans-serif">Mrs Dalloway</span></em> in 1942, but
it was reset because of wartime requirements:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">"some of Woolf’s
books that Leonard decided had to be reprinted would have resulted in a
profligate use of the paper quota. Mrs. Dalloway appears to have been an
unfortunate example. When it was published in 1925, it ran to 294 pages;
my sample page (177) has 223 words. Owing to the paper shortage, Leonard
must have decided in 1941 to have it reset, reducing it to 252 pages; my sample
page (149), which describes almost the same scene as the corresponding sample
page in the first edition, has 270 words. It was published early in 1942
and therefore should have had 323 words to the page, but it would not have
needed to comply with the Agreement as the typesetting would have begun before 1
January 1942; it does not carry the economy declaration. In 1946, Chatto
& Windus ‘took under its management the Hogarth Press’ (Warner 23) and
decided to issue Mrs. Dalloway under its Zodiac Press imprint. It is hard
to believe nowadays, when labour costs so much and goods so comparatively
little, that the novel had to be reset once again, so that it could be printed
in 1947 ‘in complete conformity with the authorised economy standards’
([4]). Now it was reduced to 216 pages of a slightly larger size than in
1942, and my sample page (129) reaches the target with 322 words." (<em><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri",sans-serif">VWB</span></em> no. 51, p.
33)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">Someone (Leonard?
John Lehmann?) would have found a copy of Mrs D – hopefully the 2nd imp., but
more likely the Uniform of 1929 or its reprint of 1933 (I haven’t seen a copy,
but it was probably the last time ‘destestable’ appeared) – and chucked it over
to the printers of the Garden City Press in Letchworth, Herts (where the Hogarth
Press itself was now located), and told to get on with it. Someone might
just possibly have remembered an additional correction or corrections (kept in a
folder, even), and someone, hopefully, would have checked the text when it came
back from the printers. Someone must have noticed ‘destestable’.
It’s wartime, but this is probably how it would have happened in peacetime,
too. (For a considerable number of mistakes in VW’s essays collected in
<em><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri",sans-serif">Granite and
Rainbow</span></em> (1958), see <em><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri",sans-serif">VWB</span></em> no. 51, pp.
35-6.)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">B. J. Kirkpatrick
told me that she had visited a printer’s, and wondered how any book got produced
correctly!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">By the way, by
comparing the 1942 text with the 1st edn, the 2nd imp., and the 1929 Uniform,
you may be able to deduce which was used to produce that new 1942
edn.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">Stuart<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">From: Edward
Mendelson via Vwoolf <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">Sent: Friday,
July 26, 2024 1:47 PM <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">To:
<a>vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">Subject: [Vwoolf]
Virginia Woolf's marked copies of her books? <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt;COLOR:black">Two copies of The
Voyage Out marked by the author for revision are known to exist. Does anyone
know where marked copies might be of her other books? I’m asking in the hope
that a marked copy might exist that would give some evidence for the authority
(if any) for the changes made in the reset edition of Mrs Dalloway in 1942. My
guess is that no such copy is known, or we would all know about it, but it
seemed to be worth asking. All information will be gratefully
received.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
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