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<div dir="ltr">Hi All, Here's just the text of Drabble's TLS review, for ease of reading. -Emily<br><br>A writer with class<br>A new biography sets up the clash between Arnold Bennett and Virginia Woolf<br><br>By Margaret Drabble<br>May 13, 2022<br><br>In this review<br>ARNOLD BENNETT<br>Lost icon<br>224pp. Unicorn. £25.<br>Patrick Donovan<br><br>The subtitle of Patrick Donovan’s Life of Arnold Bennett, Lost icon, bears witness to his approach to his subject: he is intent on reminding us that Bennett, once immensely wealthy and internationally celebrated, is now almost forgotten. Bennett was the author of dozens of volumes embracing a vast range of genres, from what we would now call literary fiction to fantasies, lighthearted pot-boilers, journals, travel books, collections of short stories and self-help books such as Literary Taste; How to form it and How to Live on 24 Hours a Day. He wrote successful plays and produced many millions of words of highly paid and influential journalism, in outlets ranging from Tit-Bits to the New Age, from the Evening Standard to the New York Times. Among his close friends he numbered characters as diverse as H. G. Wells (in many ways a kindred spirit, in terms of social background and aspiration), Max Beaverbrook, Aldous Huxley and Maurice Ravel. His was a household name throughout the country, and he was a prominent and instantly recognizable figure on the London social scene, appearing regularly in cartoons and gossip columns. He owned a yacht and at one time a grand Queen Anne country house called Comarques in Essex, and he employed a household of domestic staff. “The Man from the North” (the title of his first novel, 1898) was indisputably one of the most successful and admired writers of the age. When he lay dying of typhoid at the age of sixty-three in Chiltern Court on Baker Street in 1931, straw was strewn (somewhat ineffectually) on the cobbled streets to muffle the sound of traffic. This was Fame.<br><br>Donovan is right to claim that Bennett no longer commands a large readership, though he still has his admirers, who include A. N. Wilson, Tristram Hunt, Roy Hattersley and, notably, John Carey. Carey’s The Intellectuals and the Masses: Pride and prejudice among the literary intelligentsia, 1880-1939 (1992) pits Bennett against Bloomsbury, and praises Bennett’s attempts to narrow “the abyss” between literature and mass culture, an abyss that he provocatively claims modernism was deliberately engaged in widening. There is also a thriving, very active and well-informed Arnold Bennett Society, the membership of which keeps a close eye on his reputation, both local and worldwide, and continues to add new bibliographical and biographical details to his established record.<br><br>But perhaps the most significant recent recruit to Bennett’s cause is Sathnam Sanghera, whose novel Marriage Material (2013) draws explicit inspiration from Bennett’s The Old Wives’ Tale (1908). It tells the story of two Sikh sisters from the Punjabi immigrant community in the West Midlands, placing, as Sanghera says, “the characters in an Asian corner shop instead of a Victorian draper’s shop”. Sanghera has written an interesting and personal introduction to the 2014 Vintage edition of The Old Wives’ Tale – generally regarded as Bennett’s masterpiece – which concludes with the thought that we should not feel “too sorry” for Bennett in his posthumous neglect, for he may have been aware as he lay on his deathbed that “he had done something rare and important: that he had, through his art, touched upon the eternal”.<br><br>Donovan’s Life of Arnold Bennett, the most recent significant addition to the Bennett bibliography, is advertised as “the first full length biography … since 1974”, and one of the most arresting revelations comes early in the volume: we learn that when Bennett died, “the patient had no teeth, save two in his upper jaw”. As Donovan points out, Bennett was himself very interested in deathbed scenes, in descriptions of Cheyne-Stokes breathing and blood poisoning and death rattles, so he would not have been offended by this echo of the studied realism of his literary heroes, Balzac and Zola. Most of the other discoveries come much later on, in the last chapters, for the biographer, unlike his predecessors, had access to unpublished correspondence and diaries in the Berg Collection in the New York Public Library. These shed new light on Bennett’s relationship with his common-law wife, the actress Dorothy Cheston, the mother of his daughter, Virginia, who was only four when her father died. Donovan makes some efforts to defend and uphold the reputation of his legal wife, the French seamstress Marguerite Soulié, who refused to divorce him; he had made it plain that he did not wish to have a child with her, and Dorothy’s child was not planned, although he seems to have been delighted with her when she appeared.<br><br>Bennett’s relationship with Marguerite was often strained and at times tempestuous, and he treated her, domestically, with a heavy hand. He was particularly obsessive about any unauthorized rearrangements of the household furniture, a trait of which he was aware and which he satirizes in his fiction – there are some very funny scenes in the Clayhanger trilogy where Edwin berates his wife, Hilda, for her independent attempts at reorganization. I am fond of the story that on one occasion Bennett bought a painting – a Modigliani, perhaps? – and hid it under the bed for a time, fearing Marguerite would accuse him of extravagance and banking on the excuse that when Marguerite discovered it or he decided to hang it, he would be able to say, airily, “Oh, that? That’s not new, I’ve had it a long time”. Neither Donovan nor I cite this story, but I don’t think I invented it.<br><br>(Bennett had a good eye for contemporary art, and in the wake of Roger Fry’s 1910 post-impressionist exhibition at the Grafton Gallery he took his role in educating a wider public very seriously. Donovan quotes Fry’s 1916 letter to Bennett, asking his advice on running his galleries, in which he says: “You know the British public so much better than me”. One of Bennett’s hobbies was painting conventional watercolours, which are more than just passable.)<br><br>After their separation, Marguerite made it very plain that she remained the official wife, and continued to attend the first nights of Bennett’s plays, always uninvited. There is no doubt that after his death she remained possessive of his memory. Both women wrote self-justifying and patently unreliable accounts of their years with him. Marguerite’s memoir was published in 1925, some years before his death in 1931, and Dorothy’s in 1935. It is left to the biographer to adjudicate between their versions.<br><br>In 1974, the year my own book appeared, Dorothy was still alive, a lonely and somewhat embittered old woman. I had many conversations with her, and did not feel entitled to give a full account of my assessment of her testimony, though I well remember the urgency with which she went over his last days, again and again, and her defensive attitude towards his family. She understandably wished to absolve herself of any blame for the series of events that led to his contracting typhoid in Paris, and felt, probably rightly, that the Bennett clan and Marguerite were bad-mouthing her. (One of the Huxleys told me there was a rumour that Dorothy had poisoned Arnold with a pork chop.) She insisted that his love of luxury hotels and fine shirts was not due to extravagance or snobbery, but was founded in his acute physical sensitivity. She was pleased and relieved when I told her, truthfully, that I had very much enjoyed his last, very long novel, Imperial Palace, inspired by his love of the Savoy, which had created the famous Arnold Bennett omelette in his honour. I sensed that someone had said, or some reviewer had hinted, that it was evidence of his waning powers, and had perhaps insinuated that Dorothy was somehow implicated in this decline.<br><br>Sanghera claims, no doubt correctly, that today the smoked haddock omelette is all that some people know of Arnold Bennett.<br><br>Donovan’s account of Bennett does not delve deeply into the novels, or into the influence of his social background. Five Towns Methodism, Primitive or otherwise, does not make much of an appearance, though he does discuss Bennett’s allegedly plagiaristic dependence in Clayhanger (1910) of Charles Shaw’s memoir When I Was a Child (1903). But he does address with relish and with some insight Bennett’s very public literary spats with Virginia Woolf, and his personal relationship (or lack of relationship) with her. He is keen to set up a scene of confrontation between the reigning and the rising star. Both Woolf and Bennett were powerful literary journalists as well as novelists, and both employed, in Donovan’s well chosen word, “hyperbole”. They enjoyed a clash, they liked to be provocative, and they went to extremes to defend their positions. Donovan convincingly argues that in 1924, when Woolf’s essay (originally a lecture) “Mr Bennett and Mrs Brown” appeared, Bennett still had very much the upper hand, in terms of influence and sales and readership, and indeed it did take many years for Woolf’s reputation to eclipse Bennett’s, as it now so conspicuously has done. The balance of power and reputation has changed utterly, thanks to the rediscovery and reassessment of Bloomsbury, the swelling tide of modernism and the growing dominance of feminist criticism: it is hard now to believe that, in the late 1950s, F. R. Leavis could refer in a lecture, with his accomplished offhand sneer, to the failures of “Mrs Woolf”. (Leavis didn’t think much of Bennett either, but he paid him slightly more respect.)<br><br>Woolf’s seminal essay accuses Bennett and the realist school of paying more attention to external items such as bricks and mortar and items of clothing than to the fluctuating inner movements of the soul, and to attempts to capture those movements in prose. It has always struck me as unfortunate that in choosing the character of “Mrs Brown” as an illustration, she chooses the type and class of person that Bennett understood so much better than she did. Bennett was very good on servants, and she was hopeless. Her remarks on the Georgian cook, as compared with the “formidable, silent, obscure, inscrutable” Victorian cook, are embarrassing. The modern cook, she says, is “a creature of sunshine and fresh air; in and out of the drawing-room, now to borrow the Daily Herald, now to ask advice about a hat”. Really?<br><br>The question of class is at the heart of the opposition of Woolf and Bennett, and it has little to do with feminism, or indeed modernism, but in the fullness of time feminism has trumped class, and Woolf, retrospectively, has triumphed. Donovan throughout his volume stresses the class issue and deplores the “snobbish contempt” with which Bloomsbury treated Bennett from his early days. He argues, correctly, that Bennett was not a social climber, had no interest in royalty or the aristocracy, and despised titles – he declined a knighthood, thus causing embarrassment to some of his fellow writers. It is true that he was intrigued by Lady Diana Cooper, whose reputation was thought to have coloured the portrait of Queenie in his wartime novel The Pretty Lady (1918), but he was interested in her as a social type, and when he got to know her he liked her for herself. She in turn liked him, although she did tell me once over lunch that he spoke “Cockney”. Cockney seems to have been the generic term to describe all non-U speech, regardless of geography.<br><br>The closing chapters of Donovan’s biography, drawing on the Berg Collection and the Beaverbrook papers, shed new light on the difficulties of his relationship with Dorothy Cheston, who emerges as wayward, opinionated and not good with money – her entrepreneurial attempts in the theatre were not successful, although he was always prepared to back them, just as he had always backed Marguerite’s aspirations to give public poetry recitals, recitals of which Bloomsbury made much fun. Dorothy also appears to have quarrelled with the servants, maybe even violently. Bennett himself was always scrupulously polite and generous to his staff, who were as loyal to him as he was to them. His settlement on Marguerite had also been generous, and Dorothy felt that she herself was not as well treated as she should have been, and was kept short of ready money. Certainly when he died there was not as much left as she might have expected from one who had been such a spectacularly well paid and prolific author – there was a respectable, but not a vast estate. To me, she repeatedly said that this was the fault of America and the Depression and the Wall Street Crash, and that some of his reported last words, “Everything is going wrong, my girl”, referred not to his health and impending death, nor to his relationship with her, but to his finances. Donovan notes that “by far the greatest part of his estate was made up of manuscripts and other ‘illiquid’ assets which … took a considerable time to sell”.<br><br>In later years I came to know their daughter, Virginia, who had had a difficult childhood with Dorothy, who took her to America with her as she attempted, unsuccessfully, to pursue a theatrical career. Virginia later married happily and settled in Paris. She had few memories of her father to share, but she was good and interesting company, and she and her family remained very proud of Bennett’s work and reputation. She must have been pleased to know that when Dorothy cabled to Arnold on his yacht to tell him that she was unexpectedly pregnant, he cabled back to her: “Very sorry. Very glad. Shall catch boat Hook of Holland, be with you tomorrow”. Alas, we have only Dorothy’s word for this, as I have not seen the cable, and the source, Dorothy’s A Portrait Done at Home, cannot wholly be trusted. (If it was made up, that’s one up to Dorothy.) Maybe the cable reposes in the Berg Collection? I knew of the existence of the Berg Collection when I was doing my research in the 1960s and early 1970s, but I had three small children and no money, so there was no possibility of my getting to New York to see it, even if I could have gained access. 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Sorry if I?ve overlooked a post, but? Giles Lytton Strachey?<br>
On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote: <br>
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Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles sounds a posh name to me,Giles is not very common in Woolf.? It was a popular name in the medieval period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?.? Giles sounds a posh name to me, and indeed a distant cousin of Woolf?s was Sir Gyles Isham, Bt (see letter no. 2690), who nevertheless was an ACTOR:<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!zyj8oUENhg2KrmHjwUUVOgHMcQeV-iHt3a5l2lWfKJ-Smp3d1-5FEjwTcsZw3RfHgI-bigtOP-T0XX09pqVR9A$" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!zyj8oUENhg2KrmHjwUUVOgHMcQeV-iHt3a5l2lWfKJ-Smp3d1-5FEjwTcsZw3RfHgI-bigtOP-T0XX09pqVR9A$</a> ?Stuart?From: Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf Sent: S<br>
unday, May 15, 2022 10:00 AMTo: <a href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a> Subject: [Vwoolf] names and nations?Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name Yossarian <br>
Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name Yossarian is associated with events that dealt him metaphorical black eyes. <br>
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Yossarian - the very sight of the name made him shudder. There were so many esses in it. It just had to be subversive. It was like the word subversive itself. It was like seditious and insidious too, and like socialist, suspicious, fascist and Communist. It was an odious, alien distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence. It was not at all like such clean, crisp, honest American names as Cathcart, Peckem and Dreedle.<br>
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(Why does Heller give ?Communist? a capital letter?)<br>
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One Woolf name I have often wondered about is Giles, in Between the Acts. What associations does that name have for readers - or did it have for Woolf?<br>
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What of "Gilles" as a stock figure in French farce?<br>
In any event, "little goat" gives this (somewhat) modern student of<br>
pastoral...a frisson.<br>
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On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:58 AM Mark Hussey via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
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> Sorry if I?ve overlooked a post, but? Giles Lytton Strachey<br>
><br>
> On Sunday, May 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM EDT, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<br>
> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval<br>
> period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately<br>
> there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles<br>
> sounds a posh name to me,<br>
> Giles is not very common in Woolf. It was a popular name in the medieval<br>
> period (St Giles was the patron saint of ?cripples?), and appropriately<br>
> there?s a Giles Martyn in ?The Journal of Mistress Joan Martyn?. Giles<br>
> sounds a posh name to me, and indeed a distant cousin of Woolf?s was Sir<br>
> Gyles Isham, Bt (see letter no. 2690), who nevertheless was an ACTOR:<br>
> <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!29ygSF2vrKsupppdaJi-BU5qwU7p5Zhyuxk0HY_PMXgViAklx7HpMUPdpNk_sxg4pBsxfryCzPajhyQOn8hW$" target="_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyles_Isham__;!!KGKeukY!29ygSF2vrKsupppdaJi-BU5qwU7p5Zhyuxk0HY_PMXgViAklx7HpMUPdpNk_sxg4pBsxfryCzPajhyQOn8hW$</a> <br>
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> *From:* Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf<br>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2022 10:00 AM<br>
> *To:* <a href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank">VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a><br>
> *Subject:* [Vwoolf] names and nations<br>
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> Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s<br>
> Catch 22 ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions<br>
> inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name<br>
> Yossarian<br>
><br>
> Stuart?s exasperation reminds me of this passage from Joseph Heller?s *Catch<br>
> 22* ? it deals with surnames rather than given names, but the emotions<br>
> inspired are similar. Colonel Cathcart has realized how often the name<br>
> Yossarian is associated with events that dealt him metaphorical black eyes.<br>
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> *Yossarian* - the very sight of the name made him shudder. There were so<br>
> many esses in it. It just had to be subversive. It was like the word<br>
> *subversive* itself. It was like *seditious* and *insidious* too, and<br>
> like *socialist*, *suspicious*, *fascist* and *Communist*. It was an<br>
> odious, alien distasteful name, that just did not inspire confidence. It<br>
> was not at all like such clean, crisp, honest American names as Cathcart,<br>
> Peckem and Dreedle.<br>
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> (Why does Heller give ?Communist? a capital letter?)<br>
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> One Woolf name I have often wondered about is Giles, in *Between the Acts*.<br>
> What associations does that name have for readers - or did it have for<br>
> Woolf?<br>
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