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<div dir="ltr">Ah, yes. Something to fall back on. I was majoring in chemistry, with a place at Stanford for graduate school, and my mother, who was paying for books and living expenses (tuition was via scholarship), insisted that I take some classes in the education department because, and I do quote exactly here, "If a woman can't do anything else, she can always teach or be a secretary."<br><br>Bless her heart. What a lovely vote of confidence! At least that's how I took it at the time, though she might have meant "If a woman isn't permitted to do anything else..." And the education classes were utter DRECK -- I despair for Kentucky schools, I really do --<br><br>Then again, she might have had a point. I have an unfashionable regional accent, and a friend of mine who also moved to the Bay Area ended up working on a loading dock, because companies wouldn't hire her as a front-desk receptionist because of her accent. I am sure that, when I did go to get a job, I probably had a harder time of it than those who sounded like the announcers on TV.<div><br></div><div>That was -*cough*- decades ago. I do hope things have changed...<br><div><br></div><div>Mary Ellen</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 11:04 AM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I know this isn’t really relevant to the listserv, but it will resonate with those of you who (like me) come from working-class backgrounds: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61107909__;!!KGKeukY!gH-UkaXScOEYmSgt3p90A7JoQTQcJ4dN6O9jRlCDe2ycgM-BLLdgP2srmOn2E73fqRA$" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61107909</a> I saw a black woman on the TV the other day,
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<div>I know this isn’t really relevant to the listserv, but it will resonate
with those of you who (like me) come from working-class backgrounds:</div>
<div>h<a title="ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61107909" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61107909__;!!KGKeukY!jqPe0meTvr01hNVZznnvkz6Z06TNnQ2kd0H0ZG40o5HZ1vHKY6J7qH1mDiJtWqW9MV4$" target="_blank">ttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-61107909</a></div>
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<div>I saw a black woman on the TV the other day, who went to the careers’
advisor at school and said she wanted to go to university. “What about
secretarial college?”</div>
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<div>Which reminds me of Sylvia Plath and her mother: go to secretarial college
and you’ll have something to fall back on. From memory, in “The Bell Jar”
she didn’t want to type interesting letters for some man, but write interesting
letters herself.</div>
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<div>I remember telling a Woolfian acquaintance that I had never wanted to work,
never had any idea of what to do. She was surprised/shocked: “What about
publishing?”</div>
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<div>I then fantasised about going back in time and telling my parents that I
wanted to go into publishing, and their subsequent conversation in their
bedroom:</div>
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<div>“Where’s Lord Muck got *this* idea from?”</div>
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<div>“Well, he hasnae got it from me.”</div>
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<div>Stuart</div></div></div></div>
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