<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Btw - image inserted below the previous message - in case it was missed.<div>From the micro 3 vols inexpensive edition of the OED - bought some (30!) years ago. </div><div>One needs a camera zoom or magnifying glass.</div><div>🧡the OED<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="x-apple-transform-wrapper" style="font-size: 21px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; height: 88.43636363636364px;"><table width="550" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="display: inline-flex; padding-bottom: 10px; margin-bottom: 8px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: scale(0.6909090909090909); width: 550px !important; height: 128px !important;"><tbody><tr><td><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="width: 550px; display: inline-block;"><tbody><tr><td><div class="x-apple-transform-wrapper" style="height: 88.43636363636364px;"><table width="550" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="display: inline-flex; 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charset=utf-8">The good old <i>OED</i>, of course - always step 1 when these types of questions arise: before Woolf, Shakespeare & Shelley etc. used « leaf » in the sense of « petal » - thank you Jeremy for the OED reminder. I should have checked first.<div>I do maintain the light poetic undertone of « leaves » though, after all.<br><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:8A519815-37C7-447C-A79E-4BE26E30BD88"><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="x-apple-transform-wrapper" style="font-size: 21px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; height: 88.43636363636364px;"><table width="550" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="display: inline-flex; padding-bottom: 10px; margin-bottom: 8px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: scale(0.6909090909090909); width: 550px !important; height: 128px !important;"><tbody><tr><td><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="width: 550px; display: inline-block;"><tbody><tr><td><div class="x-apple-transform-wrapper" style="height: 88.43636363636364px;"><table width="550" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="display: inline-flex; padding-bottom: 10px; margin-bottom: 8px; transform-origin: 0px 0px; transform: scale(0.6909090909090909); width: 550px !important; 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Shorter Oxford (old ed.), sense 2: A petal; esp. in rose-leaf (popular). 1565</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:15:24 AM<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Ah ha! As in “rose-leaf complexion.” I always wondered about that, since rose leaves are shiny and dark green.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Initially, I thought that it’s the old “black cab driver” problem.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">However, one of the meanings of a “rose leaf” is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure.</span></p>
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White Rose Leaves?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="x_DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">So, in her diary entry on “Stella & Jack’s Wedding Day,” Virginia writes, “White rose leaves from S’s bouquet.”</span></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="x_DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don’t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves
of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? </span></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="x_DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">I would appreciate any help you can offer.</span></span></p>
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