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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Polly Carter, the gardener at Talland House in St Ives, is attempting to restore the garden to what it was in VW's day, according to plants and structures mentioned in her writings. I believe that Elisa's Virginia Woolf Herbarium (<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://woolfherbarium.blogspot.com/__;!!KGKeukY!lFPdj9WFpIs_dJD1WV3FBWhMlgjIr_1mZHHHJzottJYOYo7Xham5M4tEtRAoFxSodTADTHsXhqJY$" class="" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://woolfherbarium.blogspot.com</a>) has been of great help.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Sarah</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div>Sarah M. Hall<br><b>Executive Council, Virginia Woolf Society of GB</b><br>Web: virginiawoolfsociety.org.uk<br>Facebook: @VWSGB<br>Twitter: @VirginiaWoolfGB<br>Instagram: @virginiawoolfsociety</div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, 21 February 2022, 22:24:13 GMT, Lorienne E Schwenk via Vwoolf <vwoolf@lists.osu.edu> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail_default">some day I wish I could have a book of all the botanical references and I'd like to have them as many as possible in my garden!!</div><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail_default"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail_default">Lorienne</div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail_quote"><div id="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268yqt94041" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268yqt9494629716"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:52 AM Danell Jones via Vwoolf <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail_quote"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599WordSection1"><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;">I am so glad that you are doing such an extensive catalogue of Woolf botanical references, Elisa! That is wonderful. Thank you so much. <u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;">Danell<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">Sent from <a shape="rect" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986__;!!KGKeukY!ixzLlfllGGROOADu-O8MhiV8NjAGLdfb7eaWqhXWqkc2T8BEqXpDOtbxR5EBU2yDRTwwCJlrhO4W$" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><p style="border-color: currentcolor; border-style: none; border-width: medium; padding: 0in;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a shape="rect" href="mailto:sparks@clemson.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Elisa Sparks</a><br clear="none"><b>Sent: </b>Monday, February 21, 2022 12:02 PM<br clear="none"><b>To: </b><a shape="rect" href="mailto:mc@clarior.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Marie Claire Boisset</a><br clear="none"><b>Cc: </b><a shape="rect" href="mailto:danelljones@bresnan.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">danelljones@bresnan.net</a>; <a shape="rect" href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a><br clear="none"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves?</p></div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">Having recently surveyed 274 appearances of roses in Woolf's writing, I can confirm Stuart's explanation. Woolf often uses "leaves" to refer to petals. It'sveryconfusingbut there are numerous examples where it is pretty clear she is referring to the flowers rather than the foliage. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">Elisa Kay Sparks<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><p style="margin-bottom:12pt;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Marie Claire Boisset via Vwoolf <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;"><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">Agree with Stuart - had the exact same thought process. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">And then also can't help read this as a micro haiku or poem of some sort, <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">where "leaves" would be a verb - <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">Stella (the white rose) leaves (= her marriage (had) meant she was leaving home),<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">maybe also the idea of her death together with that of her marriage (I did not verify the diary entry date etc.)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">So maybe an underlying poetic meaning (not necessarily deliberate from W) that you might have sensed too if you asked?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">But again - Go figure. <span style="font-family:UI sans-serif;">😉😊</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">Have a nice day/week. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">mc<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><table style="width:412.5pt;" class="yahoo-compose-table-card" width="550" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="padding:0in 0in 7.5pt;"><table style="width:100%;display:inline-block;" class="yahoo-compose-table-card" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" 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Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy.</span><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:green;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">Initially, I thought that it’s the old “black cab driver” problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">However, one of the meanings of a “rose leaf” is the petal of a rose. The other meaning is the leaf of a rose. Go figure.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">Stuart<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p style="background-color: whitesmoke; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;"> Danell Jones via Vwoolf <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p style="background-color: whitesmoke; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;"> Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:56 PM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p style="background-color: whitesmoke; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;"> <a shape="rect" href="mailto:VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p style="background-color: whitesmoke; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-image: none; background-size: auto;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;color:black;"> [Vwoolf] White Rose Leaves?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599gmail-m-5452142477134993363defaultfonthxmailstyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">So, in her diary entry on “Stella & Jack’s Wedding Day,” Virginia writes, “White rose leaves from S’s bouquet.”</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599gmail-m-5452142477134993363defaultfonthxmailstyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">Apparently, white rose leaves were some kind of Victorian thing, but I don’t know what. Were these rose leaves painted white? Or simply the green leaves of white roses? Are they confections put in the bouquet? </span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599gmail-m-5452142477134993363defaultfonthxmailstyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">I would appreciate any help you can offer.</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599gmail-m-5452142477134993363defaultfonthxmailstyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">Danell</span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">Sent from <a shape="rect" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986__;!!KGKeukY!hNxBkwAzJUxX43tBwJxA0aC7zQTCmZpb9IkGG-n-ZFil5NBPXenIGiDNMT5aTDXlRGr_a0kEtt6x$" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mail</a> for Windows<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><img id="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599Horizontal_x0020_Line_x0020_3" style="width: 464px; max-width: 580px;" src="cid:d79V03WuK7iAAgWEMeEo" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true" border="0"></span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black;">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Vwoolf mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Vwoolf mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p style="margin-right:0.5in;margin-bottom:5pt;margin-left:0.5in;" class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Vwoolf mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268MsoNormal"><span class="ydp4cf7dee4yiv0051162268gmail-m_6466973292945887599DefaultFontHxMailStyle"><span style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></span></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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