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<p>But did you know, Stuart, that Wincarnis (advertised on the bus)
was originally a blend of wine and meat (the clue is in the name).
British Prime Minister Harold Wilson was mercilessly ribbed by the
satirical magazine Private Eye for allegedly drinking Wincarnis.
It was a bit too lower class a beverage for the toffs who ran the
Eye. See</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wincarnis__;!!KGKeukY!nxzQGAHMoFQ2fxFYBk9Or_akVIIx0fEQ__JZTHuX2pxX3BojSk96hfviVEMo8WCU0Jo$">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wincarnis</a></p>
<p>I doubt that Wincarnis appears in a Woolf novel . . .<br>
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<p>Jeremy H</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05.04.2021 18:43, Stuart N. Clarke
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<div>Vara’s brought my attention to this article:</div>
<div>h<a
title="ttps://londonist.com/london/transport/londons-pirate-buses"
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://londonist.com/london/transport/londons-pirate-buses__;!!KGKeukY!nkFdJmmBCfmKNAqdtzR2Kcpyw9-OesdXBf5cWkmp-LqqrTY9TU_OCxaGA_cHxJ4Khng$"
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<div>Now, the first (non-advert) picture you see is of a
London General in Trafalgar Sq. If Elizabeth had *not*
taken a pirate, she might have taken this one, as the 38
went along Victoria Street (I think). Here’s the real thing
in Trafalgar Sq:</div>
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<div>The article is biased against the pirates. How
capitalist do you want to be? Are you in favo(u)r of
competition? Do you want public transport nationalised? </div>
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<div>Here’s a more balanced assessment about when Arthur
George Partridge started Chocolate Express bus routes:</div>
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<div>Stuart</div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">Stuart
N. Clarke via Vwoolf</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 5, 2021 5:18 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jeremy Hawthorn</a> ; <a
title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">vwoolf</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Fancy not knowing
that!</div>
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<div>I have to admit that I thought the same about
pirate buses. One of our VWSGB Members told me. Now
I’ve discovered lots of info. Below is the most
famous: the “Chocolate Express”.</div>
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<div>Here’s an example of something I didn’t know I
didn’t know until I found out I didn’t know a few
years ago: what’s a street scavenger? They pop up in
T. S. Eliot’s ‘A Cooking Egg’ (1920): ‘The red-eyed
scavengers are creeping | From Kentish Town and
Golder’s Green’. They are also mentioned in “The
Years” and “Jacob’s Room”.</div>
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<div>Answer: persons ‘whose employment is to clean
streets, by scraping or sweeping together and removing
dirt’ (OED).</div>
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<div>Stuart</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 5, 2021 4:48 PM</div>
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moz-do-not-send="true">vwoolf</a> </div>
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<p>It's a good example of what for many might be an
unknown unknown: those unfamiliar with cricket might
well assume that the nets are for tennis. (Another
unknown unknown for me was the pirate bus in Mrs
Dalloway - which before you contextualised it,
Stuart, I thought was just a bit of romancing on
Elizabeth's part. Annotators, I agree, need to be
alert to the possibility of such ignorance.) The
things we know we don't know can always be looked
up; the things we don't know we don't know remain
unresearched.<br>
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<p>J<br>
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<div>It was intended as a gentle tease of
foreigners outwith the Empire – but also an
implied criticism of annotated editions that
don’t explain what readers might need to know.</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 5, 2021
4:10 PM</div>
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<p>I suspect you of playing "tease the
foreigner" Stuart! I had a memory that when
in Hollywood, Sir Cedric Hardwicke expected
all expatriot Brits to turn up for net
practice for the local cricket team, but
could not find this on line. But I did find
this, from around the time of <i>The Waves</i>:</p>
<p>"The headmaster of High Wycombe Royal
Grammar School, Mr. E.R.Tucker, in an effort
to stimulate the interest of parents in
school affairs, has arranged cricket
practice at the nets for fathers once a
week."<br>
<br>
Evening Post, Wednesday August 14, 1935</p>
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<div>When the boys are at school in “The
Waves”, Louis “said”:</div>
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<div>“We are parting, some to tea; some
to the nets ...”</div>
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<div>Alles klar?</div>
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<div>Stuart</div>
<div>(Day 384)</div>
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