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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This makes me wonder about the actual sound of “kyar.” I always vaguely heard it as “car” with an inserted semivowel (like “piazza”), but I suppose it must be meant to rhyme with “liar.” That would
fit with the notion that Watkiss is parodying the upper classes who produce things like Prime Ministers—and ride in cars.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Caroline<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces+caroline.webb=newcastle.edu.au@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf-bounces+caroline.webb=newcastle.edu.au@lists.osu.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 23 November 2020 6:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] "Mrs. Dalloway" crux<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Various colleagues in my (English) department suggest that this is English Black Country (i.e. Midlands - which would chime with Birmingham). If you are of my generation or near it, Stuart, you might remember a young Brummie girl who became famous on TV
in the 60s because of her thick dialect. According to Wiki:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>"Janice Nicholls was a former office clerk from the English Midlands who became famous for the catchphrase "Oi'll give it foive" [ = I'll give it five] which she said with a strong Black Country accent on the TV show 'Thank Your Lucky Stars.'"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>That would match the "Proime" but I'm less sure about "kyar."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Jeremy H<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 22.11.2020 17:53, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black;background:antiquewhite">Edgar J. Watkiss, with his roll of lead piping round his arm, said audibly, humorously of course: "The Proime Minister's kyar."</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Leaving aside the ramifications and peculiarities of his name, what is his accent? This has subconsciously bothered me for years. It has been suggested that it is Irish. “Proime” sounds Southern
Irish; alternatively, very Birmingham to me. Is “kyar” Irish? It doesn’t sound like any accent I can readily think of.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Woolf wrote in “Memories of a Working Women’s Guild” (1930):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">“to deride ladies and to imitate, as some of the speakers did,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">their mincing speech and little knowledge of what it pleases them to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">call ‘reality’ is not merely bad manners, but it gives away the whole<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">purpose of the Congress, for if it is better to be a working woman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">by all means let them remain so and not claim their right to undergo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">the contamination of wealth and comfort.” (E5 182)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">If he says it “humorously”, then is he perhaps parodying upper-class speech?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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