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<DIV>Sorry to keep going on, but, while I “believe” in Monks House and not
Monk’s (no one seems to suggest Monks’, but that’s more logical), there is a
problem with punctuation on signs in capitals. So, I don’t think that what
was on the gate is a definitive answer – neither, for that matter, is the
Woolfs’ (inconsistent) letterhead.</DIV>
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<DIV>There is a slight suggestion of despair in Douglas Rose’s “The London
Underground: A Diagrammatic History”:</DIV>
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<DIV>“As there is no such thing as an ‘official name’, it is impossible to be
certain about the use of apostrophes, hyphens, brackets and the like, especially
where ... the name of any particular station can appear differently on the
station building, platform nameboards, timetables, maps and tickets.”</DIV>
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<DIV>Now try ordering a new sign for ST. JAMES’S PARK</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=vwoolf@lists.osu.edu>Stuart
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 1, 2019 8:46 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>I would say that the old full-stops were (rigidly) standard across the
English-speaking world, inc. Australia. They started to disappear in the
1960s and 1970s. Remember M.A. and Ph.D.? (That leaves LLB feeling a
little uncomfortable.) You could say that it’s the US that hasn’t “moved
on”, or not as fast. Even the French, I think, still like a comma in the
address: 27, rue Barbe.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=vwoolf@lists.osu.edu>Sarah
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 1, 2019 8:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=fernald@fordham.edu>Anne Fernald</A> ; <A
title=mhussey@verizon.net>Mark Hussey</A> ; <A
title=caroline.webb@newcastle.edu.au>Caroline Webb</A> </DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">Similar point
to Caroline's: in terms of grammar, the current British standard is to drop the
full point for contractions where the final letter is present, e.g. Mrs, Dr, St,
Revd, and retain it for abbreviations, e.g. Prof., Capt., Rev. For initialisms
the full points are nearly always dropped, e.g. UK, US, EU (sniff), BSc, PhD,
BBC, FBI.</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">But with
titles/places/proper names, as for quotations, you would reproduce the original
exactly; so the 1925 edition would be Mrs. Dalloway and, strictly speaking,
Monks House would be without the apostrophe, as this was on the gate. <BR></DIV>
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<DIV>On Friday, 1 March 2019, 01:53:28 GMT, Caroline Webb via Vwoolf
<vwoolf@lists.osu.edu> wrote: </DIV>
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal><SPAN>It’s an interesting point (so
to speak). One of the many things I had to learn when I went to the US in
the early 1980s was to add a full stop/period after abbreviations of this type;
by the late twentieth century British (and Commonwealth) English had stabilised
on using this only where the last letter of the abbreviation was not the same as
the last letter of the full word if spelled out (so no full stop after “Mrs,”
originally an abbreviation of “Mistress”). </SPAN></P>
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal><SPAN>Presumably this style marker
was not rigid in the 1920s—or Woolf and her press favoured the US
approach.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal><SPAN>Caroline</SPAN></P>
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<vwoolf-bounces+caroline.webb=newcastle.edu.au@lists.osu.edu> <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Anne Fernald via Vwoolf<BR clear=none><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 1 March 2019
12:43 PM<BR clear=none><B>To:</B> Mark Hussey <mhussey@verizon.net><BR
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal>That's right, Mark,</P>
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal>Since the first UK edition used the
period, I reinstated it for CUP even though subsequent English editions dropped
it. (It's always been part of the US editions.)</P></DIV>
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 7:48 PM Mark
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>The period is
there in the first UK and US editions (according to Kirkpatrick and Clarke),
but it seems often to be omitted on the dustjacket copy of various editions
(e.g. the Shakespeare Head).</SPAN></P>
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target=_blank>verizon.net@lists.osu.edu</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Catherine
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>Dear
Woolfians,</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>There must have
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>Is it Mrs.
Dalloway (with the period) or Mrs Dalloway (without)? The Cambridge edition
uses "Mrs." and the Hogarth Press edition uses "Mrs" -- is one preferred over
the other?</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=ydp4e0959e6yiv8184520544MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>Thanks for any
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