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    <p>For what it's worth: Henry Louis (Skip) Gates rediscovered,
      edited, and published Our Nig during the years when we were
      colleagues in the English department at Yale. I still cherish the
      copy he bestowed on me with a radiant smile.</p>
    <p>Christine<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/9/2019 1:48 PM, Linda Camarasana
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        <div dir="ltr">Anne--
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          <div>Are you familiar with this book, <i>Our Nig</i> by
            Harriet E. Wilson?</div>
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          <div>--Linda</div>
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          <div><i><font face="garamond, serif">Linda Camarasana</font></i></div>
          <div><i><font face="garamond, serif">Associate Professor and
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          <div><i><font face="garamond, serif">Director, Women's Center</font></i></div>
          <div><i><font face="garamond, serif">SUNY College at Old
                Westbury</font></i></div>
          <div><i><font face="garamond, serif">Old Westbury, NY 11568</font></i></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 11:35
          AM Anne Fernald via Vwoolf <<a
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            <div>When Stuart first sent this email, the subject line
              made me gasp. It was too close to the racial slur. Which
              made me wonder: might Lord Cecil's nickname be connected
              to the racial slur? Given the frequency of references to
              "n*** brown" as a descriptor of clothing in the teens,
              twenties, and thirties, I think it might. I looked in the
              OED, and yes, "nig" is short for the racial slur:</div>
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                              style="text-indent:0px"><i>c</i>1832   <span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-smallCaps"
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps">T.
                                D. Rice</span> <em><a
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                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Jim Crow</a></em> x</span>  
                            De <span
                              class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-quotationKeyword"
                              style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">Nigs</span> in
                            ole Virginny Be so black dey shine.</div>
                          <div
                            class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-quotation"
                            id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335eid34815990"
                            style="margin:0.2em 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px"><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-noIndent"
                              id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335eid263601241"
                              style="text-indent:0px">1840   <em><a
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                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Daily Picayune
                                  (<span
                                    class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-roman"
                                    style="font-style:normal">New
                                    Orleans</span>) </a></em>20 Sept.
                              2/2</span>   Two little <span
                              class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-quotationKeyword"
                              style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">nigs</span>..had
                            a most scientific set-to at the corner.</div>
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                            id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335eid34815999"
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class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-noIndent"
                              id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335eid34816000"
                              style="text-indent:0px">1860   <span
                                class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-smallCaps"
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps">R.
                                F. Burton</span> <em><a
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                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Lake Regions
                                  Central Afr.</a></em> I. 137</span>  
                            He resents..the name of ‘Nigger’, or ‘<span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-quotationKeyword"
                              style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">Nig</span>’—Jupiter
                            Tonans has heard of the offensive
                            dissyllable..but has he heard of the more
                            offensive monosyllable which was forced upon
                            the abbreviating Anglo-Saxon by the fatal
                            necessity of requiring to repeat the word so
                            frequently?</div>
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                              style="text-indent:0px">1879   <span
                                class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-smallCaps"
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps">Mrs.
                                A. G. F. E. James</span> <em><a
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                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Indian Househ.
                                  Managem.</a></em> 43</span>   Treat
                            your servants as fellow-creatures, not as ‘<span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-quotationKeyword"
                              style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">nigs</span>’—a
                            term too often applied..to the Indian
                            natives.</div>
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                            id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335eid34816034"
                            style="margin:0.2em 0px 0px 3em;padding:0px"><span
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                              id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335eid34816035"
                              style="text-indent:0px">1916   <span
                                class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-smallCaps"
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps">J.
                                B. Cooper</span> <em><a
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                                  rel="0041858"
                                  style="color:rgb(91,133,177);border-bottom:1px
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                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Coo-oo-ee</a></em> xvi.
                              245</span>   He never wipes the glass
                            slobbered over by dozens of dirty <span
                              class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-quotationKeyword"
                              style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">nigs</span>!</div>
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            <div>As to why Lord Cecil might have that nickname, short of
              consulting the full bio, I can only conjecture. Was he
              darker complected than his family members? Was it because
              of his colonial work in Egypt? Or, like lots of nicknames,
              did it come from some more obscure bit of personal
              history.</div>
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            <div>In any case, watching this conversation unfold
              simultaneously with some pretty sorry racial incidents of
              blackface here in the U.S. and it struck me that it would
              be disingenuous to pretend that Lord Cecil's nickname,
              Nigs, was unconnected to the history of racism. </div>
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            <div>Anne</div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at
                3:57 PM Peter D L Stansky via Vwoolf <<a
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Stuart for the mention
                      of the Rudikoff book as I was involved with its
                      publication.  It was published by SPOSS, the
                      Society for the Promotion of Science and
                      Scholarship and copies should still be available
                      on Amazon at very low prices. SPOSS also published
                      my <i>William Morris to Sergeant Pepper </i>which
                      contains a section on Bloomsbury.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Best to all, Peter</p>
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                      on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a
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                      <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:03:27
                      AM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Barbara Lounsberry<br>
                      <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu"
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                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Nigs</font>
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                        <div>Ref. to Lord Edward Cecil, L1 189.  For
                          anything to do with the aristocracy & VW,
                          it’s worth starting with a rarely referenced,
                          but excellent book, RUDIKOFF, Sonya,
                          "Ancestral Houses: Virginia Woolf and the
                          Aristocracy" (1999).</div>
                        <div> </div>
                        <div>Stuart</div>
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                              <div><b>From:</b> <a
                                  title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Stuart N.
                                  Clarke via Vwoolf</a>
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                              <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 5,
                                2019 4:24 PM</div>
                              <div><b>To:</b> <a
                                  title="lounsberry@gmail.com"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Barbara
                                  Lounsberry</a> </div>
                              <div><b>Cc:</b> <a
                                  title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu"
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                              <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Nigs</div>
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                              <div>Making the grenadier connection is
                                even more persuasive.  I think we might
                                be able to search VW’s connections to
                                the Cecils to find how close (as it
                                were) she ever got to Lord Edward. Kitty
                                Maxse’s husband Leo was a brother of
                                Lady Violet, Lord Edward’s wife.</div>
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                              <div>Stuart (whose mother was born in
                                Lasswade)</div>
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                                    <div><b>From:</b> <a
                                        title="lounsberry@gmail.com"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">Barbara
                                        Lounsberry</a>
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                                    <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February
                                      5, 2019 4:14 PM</div>
                                    <div><b>To:</b> <a
                                        title="stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">Stuart N.
                                        Clarke</a> </div>
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                                    <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf]
                                      Nigs</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Stuart:
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                                  <div>Thank you for your illuminating
                                    (and, to me, very persuasive)
                                    information on Lord Edward Cecil and
                                    Edward
                                    <span
                                      id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444:pt.1">Pargiter</span>
                                    of <i>The Years</i>.</div>
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                                  <div>Your reference to Lord Cecil and
                                    the Grenadier Guards makes me wish
                                    to add that I believe Woolf
                                    associated Kitty Malone in
                                    <i>The Years </i>with Sir Walter
                                    Scott (Woolf's own diary "father"). 
                                    Kitty's married name is
                                    <span
                                      id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444:pt.2">Lasswade</span>
                                    (name of Scott's home) and she much
                                    prefers the north over Oxford and
                                    London.  Kitty is call "The
                                    Grenadier."  In the British Army, a
                                    grenadier was a member of the first
                                    regiment of household infantry. 
                                    Grenadiers were specially selected
                                    foot soldiers in elite units who
                                    threw grenades.  Thus Woolf links
                                    Kitty to both Scott and to female
                                    household battle. 
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                                  <div>Hope this adds.  No doubt you can
                                    add more to this.</div>
                                  <div> </div>
                                  <div>Barbara <span
                                      id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444:pt.3">Lounsberry</span></div>
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                                  <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On
                                    Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:31 AM Stuart
                                    N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a
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                                    wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>You will recall that
                                            that’s Eleanor’s nickname
                                            for Edward Pargiter in “The
                                            Years” (mentioned 4 times). 
                                            Apparently, that was VWS and
                                            HN’s name for Nigel (see CUP
                                            edn 420 39:13).  But why
                                            should that be a nickname
                                            for *Edward*?</div>
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                                          <div>I’ve found a more
                                            persuasive inspiration for
                                            the nickname.  The family
                                            called Lord Edward Cecil,
                                            Nigs, although I don’t know
                                            why.  Perhaps if I looked up
                                            a biography, I would find
                                            out.  Anyway, see here from
                                            the ODNB:</div>
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                                          <div><font color="#000000"><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name
gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359subject-name"><strong>Cecil,
                                                  Lord Edward Herbert
                                                  Gascoyne-</strong></span><span>
                                                (</span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359date">1867–1918</span><span>),
                                              </span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359ency"><span>army
                                                  officer and
                                                  administrator</span></span><span>,
                                                was born in London on 12
                                                July 1867, the fourth
                                                son and sixth of eight
                                                children of
                                              </span></font><a
id="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359ref_odnb-9780198614128-e-32339"
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style="text-decoration:none" color="#000000">Robert Arthur Talbot
                                                  Gascoyne-Cecil, <span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">third
                                                    marquess of
                                                    Salisbury</span>
                                                  (1830–1903)</font></span></a><font
                                              color="#000000"><span>,
                                                prime minister, and his
                                                wife,
                                              </span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Georgina
                                                Caroline (1827–1899)</span><span>,
                                                daughter of
                                              </span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Sir
                                                Edward Hall Alderson</span><span>
                                                and his wife,
                                              </span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Georgina
                                                Drewe</span><span>.
                                                Known to his family as
                                              </span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Nigs</span><span>,
                                                and to friends as
                                              </span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Ned</span><span>,
                                              </span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Edward
                                                Cecil</span><span> was
                                                educated privately and
                                                at Eton College, and was
                                                commissioned in the
                                              </span><span
class="gmail-m_-3327782520768600335gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Grenadier
                                                Guards</span><span> in
                                                1887.</span></font></div>
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                                          <div>Stuart</div>
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