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<div class="">Anne, thank you for doing the OED research and pointing this out!
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<div class="">Your observation reminds me of another kind of lingering query that at times pops up on this list for me: is it really OK to have an<font face="TimesNewRomanPSMT" class=""> “Oriental Club” in 2019? I’m referring here to the name of the private
London club founded by the Duke of Wellington for returning colonial officers and officials from India. I understand that this is the historic name, but what is the argument for retaining it today? As Anne says, given the pervasive racism of our cultural moment
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<div class="">Thanks, and happy weekend all— <br class="">
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<b class="">Date:</b> February 9, 2019 at 11:59:18 AM EST<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Anne Fernald <<a href="mailto:fernald@fordham.edu" class="">fernald@fordham.edu</a>>, "<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" class="">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" class="">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>><br class="">
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<div class="">Yes—and it’s the nickname Clare Kendry’s husband gives her in Nella Larsen’s novel Passing. <br class="">
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<div class="">When Stuart first sent this email, the subject line made me gasp. It was too close to the racial slur. Which made me wonder: might Lord Cecil's nickname be connected to the racial slur? Given the frequency of references to "n*** brown" as a descriptor
of clothing in the teens, twenties, and thirties, I think it might. I looked in the OED, and yes, "nig" is short for the racial slur:</div>
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<span class="gmail-hwSect" style=""><font size="2" class=""><span class="gmail-hw" style="">nig</span>, <span class="gmail-ps" style="font-style:italic">n.<span class="gmail-hm" style="vertical-align:text-top">3</span></span></font></span></h1>
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<font size="2" class=""> = <a class="gmail-crossReferencePopup" rev="/view/Entry/126934#eid34821604" rel="126934" href="http://www.oed.com.avoserv2.library.fordham.edu/view/Entry/126934#eid34821604" style="color:rgb(91,133,177);text-decoration-line:none"><span class="gmail-xref"><span class="gmail-smallCaps" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps">nigger</span> <span class="gmail-ps" style="font-style:italic">n.</span></span></a> <span class="gmail-ieWhitespace"> </span> (in
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<span class="gmail-noIndent" id="eid263601241" style="text-indent:0px">1840 <em class=""><a class="gmail-sourcePopup" rel="0374116" style="color:rgb(91,133,177);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(216,224,248)">Daily Picayune (<span class="gmail-roman" style="font-style:normal">New
Orleans</span>) </a></em>20 Sept. 2/2</span> Two little <span class="gmail-quotationKeyword" style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">nigs</span>..had a most scientific set-to at the corner.</div>
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Regions Central Afr.</a></em> I. 137</span> He resents..the name of ‘Nigger’, or ‘<span class="gmail-quotationKeyword" style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">Nig</span>’—Jupiter Tonans has heard of the offensive dissyllable..but has he heard of the more offensive
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Househ. Managem.</a></em> 43</span> Treat your servants as fellow-creatures, not as ‘<span class="gmail-quotationKeyword" style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">nigs</span>’—a term too often applied..to the Indian natives.</div>
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<span class="gmail-noIndent" id="eid34816035" style="text-indent:0px">1916 <span class="gmail-smallCaps" style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-caps:small-caps">J. B. Cooper</span> <em class=""><a class="gmail-sourcePopup" rel="0041858" style="color:rgb(91,133,177);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(216,224,248)">Coo-oo-ee</a></em> xvi.
245</span> He never wipes the glass slobbered over by dozens of dirty <span class="gmail-quotationKeyword" style="border-bottom:1px dotted gray">nigs</span>!</div>
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<div class="">As to why Lord Cecil might have that nickname, short of consulting the full bio, I can only conjecture. Was he darker complected than his family members? Was it because of his colonial work in Egypt? Or, like lots of nicknames, did it come from
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<div class="">In any case, watching this conversation unfold simultaneously with some pretty sorry racial incidents of blackface here in the U.S. and it struck me that it would be disingenuous to pretend that Lord Cecil's nickname, Nigs, was unconnected to
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<div class="">Ref. to Lord Edward Cecil, L1 189. For anything to do with the aristocracy & VW, it’s worth starting with a rarely referenced, but excellent book, RUDIKOFF, Sonya, "Ancestral Houses: Virginia Woolf and the Aristocracy" (1999).</div>
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<div class="">Making the grenadier connection is even more persuasive. I think we might be able to search VW’s connections to the Cecils to find how close (as it were) she ever got to Lord Edward. Kitty Maxse’s husband Leo was a brother of Lady Violet, Lord
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<div class="">Thank you for your illuminating (and, to me, very persuasive) information on Lord Edward Cecil and Edward
<span id="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444:pt.1" class="">Pargiter</span> of <i class="">
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<div class="">Your reference to Lord Cecil and the Grenadier Guards makes me wish to add that I believe Woolf associated Kitty Malone in
<i class="">The Years </i>with Sir Walter Scott (Woolf's own diary "father"). Kitty's married name is
<span id="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444:pt.2" class="">Lasswade</span> (name of Scott's home) and she much prefers the north over Oxford and London. Kitty is call "The Grenadier." In the British Army, a grenadier was a member of the first regiment of household
infantry. Grenadiers were specially selected foot soldiers in elite units who threw grenades. Thus Woolf links Kitty to both Scott and to female household battle.
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<div class="">You will recall that that’s Eleanor’s nickname for Edward Pargiter in “The Years” (mentioned 4 times). Apparently, that was VWS and HN’s name for Nigel (see CUP edn 420 39:13). But why should that be a nickname for *Edward*?</div>
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<div class="">I’ve found a more persuasive inspiration for the nickname. The family called Lord Edward Cecil, Nigs, although I don’t know why. Perhaps if I looked up a biography, I would find out. Anyway, see here from the ODNB:</div>
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<div class=""><font class=""><span class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359subject-name gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name"><strong class="">Cecil, Lord Edward Herbert Gascoyne-</strong></span><span class=""> (</span><span class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359date">1867–1918</span><span class="">),
</span><span class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359ency"><span class="">army officer and administrator</span></span><span class="">, was born in London on 12 July 1867, the fourth son and sixth of eight children of
</span></font><a id="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359ref_odnb-9780198614128-e-32339" class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359type1" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.oxforddnb.com_documentId_odnb-2D9780198614128-2De-2D32339&d=DwMF-g&c=aqMfXOEvEJQh2iQMCb7Wy8l0sPnURkcqADc2guUW8IM&r=k1OoytuRmrU4MiIwbI-7ElFohPGR5Vr0JxDyMjG9DsI&m=qyC0djSWGOis3bIRcrZ5AQTDuN0kuzUn86jxKSbvXVU&s=_Dm347sgnWdyczaPMUmROSSnrAT212c-y14fJSB-GsM&e=" target="_blank"><span class=""><font style="text-decoration:none" class="">Robert
Arthur Talbot Gascoyne-Cecil, <span class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">
third marquess of Salisbury</span> (1830–1903)</font></span></a><font class=""><span class="">, prime minister, and his wife,
</span><span class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Georgina Caroline (1827–1899)</span><span class="">, daughter of
</span><span class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Sir Edward Hall Alderson</span><span class=""> and his wife,
</span><span class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Georgina Drewe</span><span class="">. Known to his family as
</span><span class="gmail-m_-3769715498468171444gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Nigs</span><span class="">, and to friends as
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