<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">and I was just reading about her friendship with Joan Mitchell in the riveting “Ninth Street Women” by Mary Gabriel, </div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Regards to everyone, </div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">J.J. Wilson<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 6, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Peter D L Stansky via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" class="">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks Stuart for the mention of the Rudikoff book as I was involved with its publication. It was published by SPOSS, the Society for the Promotion of Science and Scholarship and copies should still be available on Amazon at very low prices. SPOSS also published my<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">William Morris to Sergeant Pepper<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>which contains a section on Bloomsbury.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Best to all, Peter</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sent from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Mail</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for Windows 10</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; width: 1179.90625px;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces+stansky=stanford.edu@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">vwoolf-bounces+stansky=stanford.edu@lists.osu.edu</a>> on behalf of Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, February 6, 2019 1:03:27 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Barbara Lounsberry<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vwoolf] Nigs</font><div class=""> </div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=""><div class="">Ref. to Lord Edward Cecil, L1 189. For anything to do with the aristocracy & VW, it’s worth starting with a rarely referenced, but excellent book, RUDIKOFF, Sonya, "Ancestral Houses: Virginia Woolf and the Aristocracy" (1999).</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Stuart</div><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;" class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: tahoma;" class=""><div class=""> </div><div style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><div class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" class="">Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf</a></div><div class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 5, 2019 4:24 PM</div><div class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="lounsberry@gmail.com" class="">Barbara Lounsberry</a></div><div class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" class=""></a><a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a></div><div class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vwoolf] Nigs</div></div></div><div class=""> </div></div><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;" class=""><div class="">Making the grenadier connection is even more persuasive. I think we might be able to search VW’s connections to the Cecils to find how close (as it were) she ever got to Lord Edward. Kitty Maxse’s husband Leo was a brother of Lady Violet, Lord Edward’s wife.</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Stuart (whose mother was born in Lasswade)</div><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;" class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: tahoma;" class=""><div class=""> </div><div style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><div class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="lounsberry@gmail.com" class="">Barbara Lounsberry</a></div><div class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, February 5, 2019 4:14 PM</div><div class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com" class="">Stuart N. Clarke</a></div><div class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" class=""></a><a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a></div><div class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Vwoolf] Nigs</div></div></div><div class=""> </div></div><div style="font-size: small; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; display: inline;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Stuart:<div class=""> </div><div class="">Thank you for your illuminating (and, to me, very persuasive) information on Lord Edward Cecil and Edward<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span tabindex="-1" id=":pt.1" class="">Pargiter</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">The Years</i>.</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Your reference to Lord Cecil and the Grenadier Guards makes me wish to add that I believe Woolf associated Kitty Malone in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">The Years<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>with Sir Walter Scott (Woolf's own diary "father"). Kitty's married name is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span tabindex="-1" id=":pt.2" class="">Lasswade</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(name of Scott's home) and she much prefers the north over Oxford and London. Kitty is call "The Grenadier." In the British Army, a grenadier was a member of the first regiment of household infantry. Grenadiers were specially selected foot soldiers in elite units who threw grenades. Thus Woolf links Kitty to both Scott and to female household battle. </div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Hope this adds. No doubt you can add more to this.</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Barbara<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span tabindex="-1" id=":pt.3" class="">Lounsberry</span></div></div><div class=""> </div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:31 AM Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf <<a class=""></a><a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left: 1ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: calibri;" class=""><div class="">You will recall that that’s Eleanor’s nickname for Edward Pargiter in “The Years” (mentioned 4 times). Apparently, that was VWS and HN’s name for Nigel (see CUP edn 420 39:13). But why should that be a nickname for *Edward*?</div><div class=""> </div><div class="">I’ve found a more persuasive inspiration for the nickname. The family called Lord Edward Cecil, Nigs, although I don’t know why. Perhaps if I looked up a biography, I would find out. Anyway, see here from the ODNB:</div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><font class=""><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name gmail-m_3242956020001509359subject-name"><strong class="">Cecil, Lord Edward Herbert Gascoyne-</strong></span><span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(</span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359date">1867–1918</span><span class="">),<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359ency"><span class="">army officer and administrator</span></span><span class="">, was born in London on 12 July 1867, the fourth son and sixth of eight children of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font><a id="gmail-m_3242956020001509359ref_odnb-9780198614128-e-32339" class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359type1" href="http://www.oxforddnb.com/documentId/odnb-9780198614128-e-32339" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;"><span class=""><font style="text-decoration: none;" class="">Robert Arthur Talbot Gascoyne-Cecil,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">third marquess of Salisbury</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(1830–1903)</font></span></a><font class=""><span class="">, prime minister, and his wife,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Georgina Caroline (1827–1899)</span><span class="">, daughter of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Sir Edward Hall Alderson</span><span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and his wife,</span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Georgina Drewe</span><span class="">. Known to his family as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Nigs</span><span class="">, and to friends as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Ned</span><span class="">,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Edward Cecil</span><span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>was educated privately and at Eton College, and was commissioned in the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-m_3242956020001509359name">Grenadier Guards</span><span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in 1887.</span></font></div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Stuart</div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Vwoolf mailing list<br class=""><a target="_blank" class=""></a><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><br class=""></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Vwoolf mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><br class=""></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Vwoolf mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>