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<div>Thank you, Madelyn! I like your reference to a “neuroaffective atypicality” as it challenges normative and as you say “compulsory able-mindedness.” Woolf’s view on the world is consistently “aslant” of that which gets constituted as the “normal” and/or
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf: bi-polar<br>
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to support and amplify Brenda's words. I almost always note when teaching Woolf that she lived with some sort of neuroaffective atypicality and that some of her documented experiences look very similar to what is today called bi-polar disorder, but that it
is not something that we can diagnose posthumously. I do this purposely to call into question compulsory able-mindedness (a take on compulsory ablebodiedness) that crip theorists such as Robert McRuer and Allison Kafer use to refute the assumption that everyone
is presumed to have normative bodies and normative minds, and that (according to compulsory able mindedness) to be recognized as outside of the normative ideal is somehow shameful. If we are ashamed or afraid to say that Woolf might have had a condition like
bipolar disorder, then we run the risk of communicating the idea that to live with such a condition is shameful. I have had many students talk with me after class about their own neuroaffective atypicalities and how important it is to discuss these atypicalities
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Kimberly Coates via Vwoolf
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<div>No—you’re right. “Slapped” was a poor choice of words on my part. Kay Redfeld Jamison’s book<i> Touched with Fire</i> comes to mind. There’s plenty of evidence that substantiates your point that those diagnosed with bi-polar “share some positive mental
traits linked to perception and creativity.” I don’t mind discussing the debates/discussion surrounding Woolf’s mental health with students; however, I don’t want them to fixate on any diagnoses retrospectively applied, especially when Woolf herself was so
suspicious of doctors and their diagnostic labels and categories. That said, I completely agree that students who deal with these diagnoses on a daily basis can benefit from knowing that they share a struggle brilliant artists/minds like Woolf and Plath also
were challenged by. I would rather students hear/listen to the struggles Woolf expresses by carefully reading her words vs getting hung up on any preconceived notions that come with diagnostic labels.</div>
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<div>Apologies for my poor choice of words! I think we’re on the same page.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 1:46 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Kimberly Coates <<a href="mailto:kimbec@bgsu.edu" target="_blank">kimbec@bgsu.edu</a>>, 'Ellen Moody' <<a href="mailto:ellen.moody@gmail.com" target="_blank">ellen.moody@gmail.com</a>>, 'Woolf list' <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I may not be being entirely clear. If we talk in the classroom about “bipolar” as a “label” that has been “slapped” on someone, we will inadvertently reinforce the stigma against bipolar disorder. It’s a condition, a “disorder,” but appears
to have been shared by some of the greatest minds and talents whose work we now idolize. It could even have encouraged some of the positive traits these creative people shared. I imagine the next “trend” in psychiatry will be to drop the word “disorder,”
but it’s what psychiatrists call it at the moment. It might have made Woolf more insightful about some things, more perceptive—her perspective different, “slanted” in the Dickinsonian sense. There is in fact good evidence that folks with bipolar disorder
share some positive mental traits linked to perception and creativity. In the classroom, I emphasize this, because it’s true, and because although we cannot become writers like Virginia Woolf or poets like Plath by somehow “becoming” bipolar, it helps those
who have bipolar “disorder” to realize they share that with Woolf and Plath. And it helps their peers.
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<p class="MsoNormal">To relate this convo to another we’ve long been having in the Woolf-world, we don’t want to
<i>totalize</i> Woolf <i>as a</i> lesbian or <i>as</i> lesbian in a constrictive defining and limiting way, but nor do we talk about fearing we might “slap” the “label” of lesbian on Woolf, right? Or of “queer.” We can talk meaningfully about her queer perspective
(in her work, in her letters, in her diaries, in what we know of her life) and how it seems to have empowered and enriched her life and work without
<i>knowing exactly</i> what she did sexually with Vita or Leonard. Nor do most of us now say in the classroom that
<i>Woolf</i> would not have called herself “lesbian” or “bisexual” or “queer” and
<i>therefore</i> we can’t use those terms to understand her or her life of her writing today. We can talk about Woolf and bipolar disorder in
<i>positive</i> ways in the classroom without “labeling” or “identifying” her or anyone “<i>as</i> bipolar.” The things we struggle with in life can also enrich our lives and work—that might be a good direction to go with this topic in the classroom if it
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on whom such a label has been slapped. We know how cynical Woolf was about doctor’s, labels, and diagnoses. I work hard to steer students away from fetishizing Woolf’s illness, and the labels that have retrospectively been applied to it, and ask them to concentrate
instead on her words, the amazing capacity of her imagination, and her desire to render language a material, mobile expression of the sensations she and her characters experienced. A good place to start regarding Woolf’s stance on illness is, of course, her
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<b>To: </b>'Ellen Moody' <<a href="mailto:ellen.moody@gmail.com" target="_blank">ellen.moody@gmail.com</a>>, Woolf list <<a href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">What would be the problem with understanding Woolf to have suffered from bipolar disorder, exactly? There’s good evidence for that, which you can easily find in the serious Woolf scholarship (not just in a recent
news article), and saying so shouldn’t negatively affect how we understand/view Woolf and her work. Possibly it will impact how students understand the suicide—possibly in a way that’s helpful, even. As someone with bipolar, I can tell you that although
the words used to define it have changed (when I was diagnosed in my early 20s it was “manic-depressive, for example), the disorder has been aroun a long time and a lot of very productive, very creative, very intelligent people appear to have had it. It will
help students who have it or know someone who does for their teachers not to shy away from saying “Yes, there’s a good chance Hemingway, Woolf, Plath et al were bipolar.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">That’s my two cents. It’s what I always did with my students and I personally found only positive consequences to have come of it. You should, though, read up on bipolar before you do that. It sounds like you
might accidentally stigmatize Woolf and bipolars generally with the attitude towards this disability I’m perceiving in the below.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ellen Moody via Vwoolf<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 07, 2018 8:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Woolf list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Vwoolf] Virginia Woolf: bi-polar</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">But I listened and what I seemed to hear was this diagnosis of "bi-polar" made Woolf into a "sane" person who had deep mood swings - from say productive, cheerful and "strong" to some snakepit of breakdown, despair,
suicidal impulses. As used, it seemed a normalzing tool, as if were to make Woolf more acceptable<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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