<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11137" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12664">Yes, I can't determine when it changed, but the -ize spelling that is the norm in the US used also to be the norm in Britain until relatively recently (i.e. well into the 20th century). It's my impression that VW's books all used the -ize spellings, although I haven't checked all my </span>first editions and would be interested to know if it's not true.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11137"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11137" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12514">In the UK, -ise is standard but -ize is also used, and is not counted as 'wrong', in the way that 'color' would be (sorry, US, but I'm sure the opposite is true there!). When I'm editing for academic publishers, most of them now ask me to use -ize, presumably so that the books will do for both UK and US markets.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11137" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11137" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12864">Sarah M. Hall</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11137" dir="ltr"><span>VWSGB</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11137" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11137" dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11126" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11125"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11124"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11123"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11122"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12589"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11121"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_11120">From:</span></b> Mark Hussey via Vwoolf <vwoolf@lists.osu.edu><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Jeremy Hawthorn' <jeremy.hawthorn@ntnu.no>; vwoolf@lists.osu.edu <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 5 March 2018, 18:08<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vwoolf] Pangrams in Woolf<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12775"><br><div id="yiv8412522046"><style>#yiv8412522046 #yiv8412522046 --
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#yiv8412522046 </style><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12774"><div class="yiv8412522046WordSection1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12773"><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext;">The ‘z’ was quite common in English English back then, in fact…</span></div><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext;"> </span></div><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12784"><span style="color:windowtext;"> </span></div><div class="yiv8412522046yqt7491182997" id="yiv8412522046yqt64089"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12772"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12771"><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_12782"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13027"> Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Hawthorn via Vwoolf<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 05, 2018 12:38 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> vwoolf@lists.osu.edu<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Pangrams in Woolf</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal"> </div><div>Found the Doctor on Google Books and it's a z! Apologies for doubting you Sally!</div><div>See</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://books.google.no/books?redir_esc=y&hl=no&id=R08rk-7Gq8UC&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=demoralizing">https://books.google.no/books?redir_esc=y&hl=no&id=R08rk-7Gq8UC&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=demoralizing</a></div><div>Jeremy</div><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal">On 05.03.2018 18.26, Stuart N. Clarke via Vwoolf wrote:</div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13034"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13033"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13032"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13031"><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13030"><span style="" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13029">I have the 1st HP edn – and also to be killjoy, I did check – but the z is there. Now, would anyone like to check "The Doctor's Second Thoughts", from which this quote comes? That I don’t have.</span></div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13037"><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1520271925615_13036"><span style=""> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal"><span style="">Stuart</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv8412522046MsoNormal"> </div></div></div></div><div class="yqt7491182997" id="yqt33312">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Vwoolf mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>