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    <p>Perhaps reminding some of us of the Hillary bashing, Sally Yates
      bashing, Elizabeth Warren-bashing etc etc etc on this side of the
      Pond?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/2017 10:13 AM, Mark Hussey
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I usually find ‘Bloomsbury Set’ used
          pejoratively in Britain, echoing Arnold’s ‘What a set!’ about
          Shelley and his circle.  The anti-Bloomsbury line in England
          still has purchase, though at least most of the articles about
          the Vanessa Bell exhibition were serious.  But the
          Bloomsbury-bashing detailed by Brenda Silver and Chris Reed in
          the 1990s has not gone away; it just sounds a bit more tired
          these days.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                Vwoolf
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu">mailto:vwoolf-bounces+mhussey=verizon.net@lists.osu.edu</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gretchen H. Gerzina<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 13, 2017 10:30 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Neverow, Vara S.<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Bloomsbury in the New York
                Times<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Actually "The Bloomsbury Set" is the way
            they are referred to in Britain!<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Gretchen <br>
            <br>
            Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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            On May 13, 2017, at 10:22 PM, Neverow, Vara S. <<a
              href="mailto:neverowv1@southernct.edu"
              moz-do-not-send="true">neverowv1@southernct.edu</a>>
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p><span style="color:black">Thank you so much for the
                  posting!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p><span style="color:black">I had read the article
                  earlier today in the print version (which is titled
                  "In Bloomsbury Country")  and thought it was rather
                  misleading in spots. What I found most puzzling
                  was how evasive Francine Prose was with regard the
                  assertion that Vanessa Bell lived with "her lover" (!)
                  Duncan Grant at Charleston. At least Prose didn't
                  refer to the Bloomsbury Group as the "Bloomsbury Set"
                  as did that article on Jo Malone's Bloomsbury scents. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p><span style="color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p><span style="color:black">Vara<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-family:Times;color:black">Vara
                          Neverow<br>
                          Department of English<br>
                          Southern Connecticut State University<br>
                          New Haven, CT 06515<br>
                          203-392-6717<br>
                          <a href="mailto:neverowv1@southernct.edu"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">neverowv1@southernct.edu</a></span><span
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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                        Vwoolf <<a
                          href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces+neverowv1=southernct.edu@lists.osu.edu"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">vwoolf-bounces+neverowv1=southernct.edu@lists.osu.edu</a>>
                        on behalf of Gretchen Gerzina <<a
                          href="mailto:ozma@sover.net"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">ozma@sover.net</a>><br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 13, 2017 8:03 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a
                          href="mailto:vwoolf@lists.osu.edu"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> [Vwoolf] Bloomsbury in the New
                        York Times</span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">This article
                      by Francine Prose is appearing in the New York
                      Times, celebrating Bloomsbury homes in Sussex and
                      Kent:<br>
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href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nytimes.com_2017_05_09_travel_britain-2Dbloomsbury-2Dgroup-2Dgardens-2Dsussex-2Dkent-2Dvirginia-2Dwoolf.html-3Fhp-26action-3Dclick-26pgtype-3DHomepage-26clickSource-3Dstory-2Dheading-26module-3Dmini-2Dmoth-26region-3Dtop-2Dstories-2Dbelow-26WT.nav-3Dtop-2Dstories-2Dbelow-26-5Fr-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=B2e-UKKhnYe5lrEq8NEkMf9o4KvCJF-4y7Z7WnzjMp0&m=ynxANMKmfaniJALbAz56UvHqq30xO2dAIrtD_uJge8Y&s=alBhA5PRC0Twf15Mit42L7cmaBcIRxLlGsjhkfo3g9Q&e="
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                                  artists, writers and intellectuals of
                                  the charmed Bloomsbury Group often
                                  retreated to the Sussex and Kent
                                  regions, where quite a few were avid
                                  gardeners.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      Gretchen Gerzina<br>
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                          Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 19:12:21 +0100<br>
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                          Subject: [Vwoolf] Compare, contrast -- and
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                          (1) ?Emma was getting old, Frannie noted
                      wistfully, as the rail-thin black maid tottered
                      into the master bedroom with a breakfast tray in
                      her hands.? (?More Tales of the City?, 1980)<br>
                          <br>
                          (2) ?Ellen, the discreet black maid, stood
                      behind Mrs Chinnery?s chair, waiting? (?The
                      Years?, 1937, ?1911? ch.)<br>
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                          Why is Ellen black?  Because she?s old Mrs
                      Chinnery?s maid.  She?s not a tweeny; she?s not a
                      downstairs maid. If anyone needs serving with
                      refreshments, it won?t be she doing it. 
                      Therefore, she?s not wearing a white apron.  She?s
                      dressed all in black.<br>
                          <br>
                          Incidentally, how is Mrs Chinnery getting to
                      her room, since she?s in a ?wheeled chair??  Will
                      she be able to get up the stairs with help, or is
                      her room on the same floor as the drawing-room? 
                      Possible but unlikely, I would have thought. 
                      There wouldn?t have been a lift.  I like to think
                      that a couple of strapping footmen will carry her
                      in the wheelchair up the stairs.<br>
                          <br>
                          Let?s turn to a bit of social history.  If the
                      photo. below comes out, it shows 3 black shop
                      assistants in the late-1920s in the back garden of
                      a department store.  Not that I think they would
                      be called such, since shop assistants in a decent
                      shop would always be wearing black.  (As little
                      James in the film of ?To the Lighthouse? would
                      say, ?My muvver is in the middle?.)  The
                      hairstyles are a bit frightening ? perms at home. 
                      Do you think the centre and right-hand dresses are
                      homemade?  (My mother was a good sewer.)  I doubt
                      if the material is of good quality.  How would you
                      clean them?  You wouldn?t dare rub a spot like Mrs
                      Robinson does in ?The Graduate?.  Perhaps a wet
                      tea-towel and a hot iron might do.  The working
                      classes couldn?t afford dry-cleaning until the
                      1930s, and only occasionally then.  And what about
                      the sweat under the arms, turning the black to
                      white or grey?  No deodorant of course, and baths
                      once a week if you were lucky.  Well, what they
                      did was wear !<br>
                       a pad<br>
                           ded crescent of material under the arms,
                      tacked, I assume, to the straps of the petticoat.
                      That mopped up the sweat and protected the
                      dresses.<br>
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                          This seems to me much more interesting than
                      even considering for a moment that Ellen might
                      have been imported from the Empire.<br>
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                          Stuart<br>
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