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<DIV>I have returned to my earlier confidence about this topic, and agree firmly
with the OED:</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>“An item or type of chocolate confectionery with a fondant centre.
Freq. <EM><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ">attrib.</SPAN></EM>, esp. in <SPAN
class=lemmaindef>chocolate-cream bar</SPAN>.”</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV>The reason for my previous unease is because I assumed that the “5 Boys”
range corresponded with choc. creams, *because* the bar split into 5, as
here:</DIV>
<DIV><A
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<DIV>yet all the examples below featuring 5 Boys have nothing to do with choc.
creams. By the way, the “Five Boys Bars came out in 1902.”</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So, back to Leonard Woolf. Surely, writing in 1964, he would not use
the expression “chocolate creams” in an anachronistic 1902-22 way (in other
words, if choc. creams meant something different in 1902-22 from 1964, he would
have explained). And this is what he wrote:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
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lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: ; mso-ansi-language: en-us">On the first page of
this book I recorded that the one thing which I remember in my return from
Ceylon after seven years is the chocolate creams in Marseille. It is a strange
fact—I have no doubt, discreditable to me, some unsavoury juggling between my
scruffy ego and sluttish id—that one of the chief things which I remember as
connected with the return from those terrible four years of war to peace is
chocolate creams. A good many Belgian refugees in the first year of the war
settled in Richmond and a large florid Belgian woman opened a kind of
delicatessen shop (as they were called in those days) and tea-shop some way up
the hill near Richmond Bridge. As the war went on</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: ; mso-ansi-language: en-us">256</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: ; mso-ansi-language: en-us"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: ; mso-ansi-language: en-us">THE 1914
WAR</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: ; mso-ansi-language: en-us">delicatessen became
very thin on the ground and chocolate creams vanished. Some months after
armistice day, Virginia and I, walking up Richmond Hill, looked into the shop
and there upon the counter were slabs of chocolate cream bars. When I was a
child, you could buy large fat bars of chocolate cream which cost, I think, a
halfpenny the bar. Some were made by Cadbury and some by Fry, and if you were an
addict of Cadbury, you regarded the Fry eater as a drinker of Musigny Vieilles
Vignes regards the drinker of Australian Burgundy. I belonged to the Cadbury
school and have remained an addict of chocolate cream in bars ever since (though
I have not seen any for years). The Belgian chocolate cream bars were
un-English, being thin and continental, but when we saw them, the world seemed
to change just a little and we dashed into the shop and each bought three bars
which was the maximum that Madame X allowed each customer to buy. We carried
them back to Hogarth House and ate them silently, almost reverently. The Great
War was at last over.</SPAN></P>
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style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: ; mso-ansi-language: en-us">257</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
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style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; mso-ansi-language: en-us">Beginning Again</SPAN></I><I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><SPAN></SPAN></I></P>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Stuart</DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mhussey@verizon.net>Mark
Hussey</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 31, 2017 2:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=stuart.n.clarke@btinternet.com>'Stuart N. Clarke'</A> ;
<A title=VWOOLF@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu>'Woolf List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Right, well Stuart’s post reminds me of Vanessa’s “Notes on
Virginia’s Childhood” which ends with a scene of the sisters buying <I>Tit
Bits</I> “together with 3d worth of Fry’s Chocolate, taking both to Kensington
Gardens to read and eat together, lying in the grass under the trees on summer
afternoons.”<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Looking forward to that edition of <I>JR</I>…<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Vwoolf
[mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stuart N.
Clarke<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 31, 2017 7:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Woolf
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vwoolf] Chocolate
Creams?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: en-gb'>VW’s
mother-in-law had a ‘passion for chocolate creams’ (<I>L</I>4 241). This passion
was shared by VW (<I>L</I>2 62) and<I> </I>LW (L. Woolf “Beginning Again” 1964:
15), and in 1918 they bought three bars from a shop near Richmond Bridge run by
a Belgian refugee: ‘The Great War was at last over’ (L. Woolf 1964:
257).</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: en-gb'>I
didn’t realise that this was a problem! As far as I’m concerned, I think
of choc. creams as a small dark chocolate with inside a creamy white
filling. The OED gives:</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<H3 id=eid336341173><STRONG><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>2.</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> An
item or type of chocolate confectionery with a fondant centre. Freq. <EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>attrib.</SPAN></EM>, esp. in <SPAN
class=lemmaindef>chocolate-cream bar</SPAN>.</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></H3></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV id=eid336341175>
<DIV id=eid790342021>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1851
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Daily National
Intelligencer</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> 18 Dec.
(</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>advt.</SPAN></EM><SPAN
class=noindent><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>)
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> The
subscriber begs leave to state that he has received a great variety of imported
and domestic Confectionary, viz. Fancy Boxes, <SPAN
class=quotationkeyword>Chocolate Cream</SPAN>, Gum Drops of superior flavors,
[etc.].<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=eid336729088>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1860
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>N.Y.
Times</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> 10 Apr. 3/4
(</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>advt.</SPAN></EM><SPAN
class=noindent><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>)
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
Maillard's Chocolate... <SPAN class=quotationkeyword>Chocolate Creams</SPAN>,
Chocolate Caramels, [etc.].<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=eid336729098>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1861
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Illustr. London
News</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> 9 Feb. 124/2
(</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>advt.</SPAN></EM><SPAN
class=noindent><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>)
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> Frys'
<SPAN class=quotationkeyword>Chocolate
Creams</SPAN>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=eid9543246>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1879
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=smallcaps><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>C. M.
Yonge</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Magnum
Bonum</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> I. iv.
58</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> We'd got
nothing to eat but <SPAN class=quotationkeyword>chocolate
creams</SPAN>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=eid336729107>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1893
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Proc. Ackworth Old
Scholars' Assoc.</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
</SPAN></SPAN><STRONG><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>12</SPAN></STRONG><SPAN
class=noindent><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
34</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> To one
unaccustomed to boys and their ways, a jam tart, a bar of <SPAN
class=quotationkeyword>chocolate cream</SPAN>, a cocoanut, and a mixture known
as turkish delight..would seem to break the elementary laws of
health.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=eid310401614>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1906
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Daily
Chron.</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> 25 July
6/4</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> A
shop-worn <SPAN class=quotationkeyword>chocolate-cream
bar</SPAN>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=eid336729115>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1917
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>McClure's
Mag.</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> Mar.
48/1</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> In the
Lowney factories most <SPAN class=quotationkeyword>chocolate cream</SPAN>
centers are fashioned in molds.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=eid336729123>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1992
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=smallcaps><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>M.
Baren</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>How it all
Began</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>
25/1</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> The
increased demand was at least partly due to the introduction of the now famous
<SPAN class=quotationkeyword>chocolate cream bar</SPAN> in
1866.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV id=eid336729131>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>2012
</SPAN></SPAN><EM><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>Weekend
Austral.</SPAN></EM><SPAN class=noindent><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> (Nexis) 21 Apr.
17</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> This is a
romantic comedy, after all—as sweet as a box of soft-centred <SPAN
class=quotationkeyword>chocolate
creams</SPAN>.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=quotations><SPAN class=quotationdate><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>1851—2012</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black; mso-fareast-language: en-gb'>However,
on the TV yesterday on an antiques programme, an enamel advert from what I took
to be 1910-26 of the famous Fry’s 5 boys made me look at the boy on the R more
closely, and he seems to have a *bar* of chocolate in his mouth rather than a
choc. with a fondant centre. This here is not the ad. I saw, but similar of
course (it was clearer on the one I saw):</SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'><A
title=https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1
href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1">https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>You can find lots of
them here:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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title=https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2
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but it was clearer on TV (& sold for at least £2000 at
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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I thought that Fry’s
choc. creams were always like this:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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title=https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454
href="https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454">https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>I think I may be
wrong: look at “Beginning Again” p. 257 more carefully. In summary, I
think chocolate cream bars were either as described by the OED or were the
equivalent of bars of milk chocolate (similar to what we get
today).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: black'>If anyone gets any
further with this, I should be pleased to hear -- to help me with “Jacob’s Room,
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Byrne, Anne (Soc & Pol) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:29 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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[Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 21pt; FONT-FAMILY: ".SFUIDisplay","serif"; COLOR: #454545'>Morning
All- I have a research quest which you might be able to help me with? I am
looking for an explanation of what 'chocolate creams' meant in post WW1 Britain.
Why? I need an image of chocolate creams as recognised by Leonard and Virginia
but as I don't know what the term means I am somewhat at a standstill. Are
'chocolate creams' hand made (or not) confectionary (sweets in a box),
biscuits (perhaps like bourbons or oreos today) or are they a chocolate bar
(think Fry's) or some sort of desert made of chocolate and cream? My mind is
frazzled by the puzzle and I have to say looking at the pictures of
chocolate does make me chocolate hungry. The plural seems to be important - any
ideas? </SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 21pt; FONT-FAMILY: ".SFUIDisplay","serif"; COLOR: #454545'>The
context as you probably can guess is that Virginia and Leonard celebrated the
end of the war together, sitting by the fire, 'sacramentally' eating 'chocolate
creams', purchased from a Belgian confectioner on Richmond Hill (see
Glendinning). The Bloomsbury Cookbook by Jans Ondaatje Rolls gives a recipe for
same but according to a Guardian review this is more like a Swiss roll
(Regretfully I don't have a copy of the book to check). Florinda in <I>Jacob's
Room</I> is partial to chocolate creams and so might I if I knew what they were!
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style='FONT-SIZE: 21pt; FONT-FAMILY: ".SFUIDisplay","serif"; COLOR: #454545'>Margaret
Cole sends 'chocolate creams' to Leonard in 1967 after reading <I>Beginning
Again </I>(Glendinning) and other readers reputedly wished they could.
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<P><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 21pt; FONT-FAMILY: ".SFUIDisplay","serif"; COLOR: #454545'>It's
frivolous I know but sometimes....Looking forward to another great conference in
Reading.</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 21pt; FONT-FAMILY: ".SFUIDisplay","serif"; COLOR: #454545'>Warm
wishes</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 21pt; FONT-FAMILY: ".SFUIDisplay","serif"; COLOR: #454545'>Anne
Byrne</SPAN><SPAN
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