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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Right, well Stuart’s post reminds me of Vanessa’s “Notes on Virginia’s Childhood” which ends with a scene of the sisters buying <i>Tit Bits</i> “together with 3d worth of Fry’s Chocolate, taking both to Kensington Gardens to read and eat together, lying in the grass under the trees on summer afternoons.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Looking forward to that edition of <i>JR</i>…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Vwoolf [mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stuart N. Clarke<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 31, 2017 7:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> Woolf List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>VW’s mother-in-law had a ‘passion for chocolate creams’ (<i>L</i>4 241). This passion was shared by VW (<i>L</i>2 62) and<i> </i>LW (L. Woolf “Beginning Again” 1964: 15), and in 1918 they bought three bars from a shop near Richmond Bridge run by a Belgian refugee: ‘The Great War was at last over’ (L. Woolf 1964: 257).</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>I didn’t realise that this was a problem! As far as I’m concerned, I think of choc. creams as a small dark chocolate with inside a creamy white filling. The OED gives:</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><h3 id=eid336341173><strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>2.</span></strong><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> An item or type of chocolate confectionery with a fondant centre. Freq. <em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>attrib.</span></em>, esp. in <span class=lemmaindef>chocolate-cream bar</span>.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></h3></div><div><div id=eid336341175><div id=eid790342021><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1851 </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Daily National Intelligencer</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> 18 Dec. (</span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>advt.</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>) </span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> The subscriber begs leave to state that he has received a great variety of imported and domestic Confectionary, viz. Fancy Boxes, <span class=quotationkeyword>Chocolate Cream</span>, Gum Drops of superior flavors, [etc.].<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=eid336729088><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1860 </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>N.Y. Times</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> 10 Apr. 3/4 (</span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>advt.</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>) </span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Maillard's Chocolate... <span class=quotationkeyword>Chocolate Creams</span>, Chocolate Caramels, [etc.].<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=eid336729098><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1861 </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Illustr. London News</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> 9 Feb. 124/2 (</span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>advt.</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>) </span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Frys' <span class=quotationkeyword>Chocolate Creams</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=eid9543246><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1879 </span></span><span class=smallcaps><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>C. M. Yonge</span></span><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Magnum Bonum</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> I. iv. 58</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> We'd got nothing to eat but <span class=quotationkeyword>chocolate creams</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=eid336729107><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1893 </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Proc. Ackworth Old Scholars' Assoc.</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>12</span></strong><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> 34</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> To one unaccustomed to boys and their ways, a jam tart, a bar of <span class=quotationkeyword>chocolate cream</span>, a cocoanut, and a mixture known as turkish delight..would seem to break the elementary laws of health.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=eid310401614><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1906 </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Daily Chron.</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> 25 July 6/4</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> A shop-worn <span class=quotationkeyword>chocolate-cream bar</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=eid336729115><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1917 </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>McClure's Mag.</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> Mar. 48/1</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> In the Lowney factories most <span class=quotationkeyword>chocolate cream</span> centers are fashioned in molds.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=eid336729123><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1992 </span></span><span class=smallcaps><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>M. Baren</span></span><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>How it all Began</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> 25/1</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> The increased demand was at least partly due to the introduction of the now famous <span class=quotationkeyword>chocolate cream bar</span> in 1866.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=eid336729131><p class=MsoNormal><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>2012 </span></span><em><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Weekend Austral.</span></em><span class=noindent><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> (Nexis) 21 Apr. 17</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> This is a romantic comedy, after all—as sweet as a box of soft-centred <span class=quotationkeyword>chocolate creams</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=quotations><span class=quotationdate><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>1851—2012</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>However, on the TV yesterday on an antiques programme, an enamel advert from what I took to be 1910-26 of the famous Fry’s 5 boys made me look at the boy on the R more closely, and he seems to have a *bar* of chocolate in his mouth rather than a choc. with a fondant centre. This here is not the ad. I saw, but similar of course (it was clearer on the one I saw):</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1" title="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1">https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>You can find lots of them here:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2" title="https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2">https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This is the one I saw, but it was clearer on TV (& sold for at least £2000 at auction!):<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG" title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I thought that Fry’s choc. creams were always like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454" title="https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454">https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I think I may be wrong: look at “Beginning Again” p. 257 more carefully. In summary, I think chocolate cream bars were either as described by the OED or were the equivalent of bars of milk chocolate (similar to what we get today).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If anyone gets any further with this, I should be pleased to hear -- to help me with “Jacob’s Room, of course.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Stuart<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Byrne, Anne (Soc & Pol) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Friday, March 31, 2017 11:29 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Woolf List <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div id=divtagdefaultwrapper><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style='font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545'>Morning All- I have a research quest which you might be able to help me with? I am looking for an explanation of what 'chocolate creams' meant in post WW1 Britain. Why? I need an image of chocolate creams as recognised by Leonard and Virginia but as I don't know what the term means I am somewhat at a standstill. Are 'chocolate creams' hand made (or not) confectionary (sweets in a box), biscuits (perhaps like bourbons or oreos today) or are they a chocolate bar (think Fry's) or some sort of desert made of chocolate and cream? My mind is frazzled by the puzzle and I have to say looking at the pictures of chocolate does make me chocolate hungry. The plural seems to be important - any ideas? </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='MIN-HEIGHT: 25px'><span style='font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545'>The context as you probably can guess is that Virginia and Leonard celebrated the end of the war together, sitting by the fire, 'sacramentally' eating 'chocolate creams', purchased from a Belgian confectioner on Richmond Hill (see Glendinning). The Bloomsbury Cookbook by Jans Ondaatje Rolls gives a recipe for same but according to a Guardian review this is more like a Swiss roll (Regretfully I don't have a copy of the book to check). Florinda in <i>Jacob's Room</i> is partial to chocolate creams and so might I if I knew what they were! </span><span style='font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='MIN-HEIGHT: 25px'><span style='font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545'>Margaret Cole sends 'chocolate creams' to Leonard in 1967 after reading <i>Beginning Again </i>(Glendinning) and other readers reputedly wished they could. </span><span style='font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='MIN-HEIGHT: 25px'><span style='font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545'>It's frivolous I know but sometimes....Looking forward to another great conference in Reading.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545'>Warm wishes</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545'>Anne Byrne</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>