<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">A chocolate cream is, as Stuart describes, a hard and glossy chocolate shell around a soft, creamy filling of any flavor. Fry's chocolate cream bar is a bar version of the bite-sized confection. I too have a passion for these and know of what I speak.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Shawn Maeder</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Cambridge, MA</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mark Hussey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mhussey@verizon.net" target="_blank">mhussey@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_700847422327790046WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Right, well Stuart’s post reminds me of Vanessa’s “Notes on Virginia’s Childhood” which ends with a scene of the sisters buying <i>Tit Bits</i> “together with 3d worth of Fry’s Chocolate, taking both to Kensington Gardens to read and eat together, lying in the grass under the trees on summer afternoons.”<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward to that edition of <i>JR</i>…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Vwoolf [mailto:<a href="mailto:vwoolf-bounces@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">vwoolf-bounces@lists.<wbr>osu.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stuart N. Clarke<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 31, 2017 7:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> Woolf List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">VW’s mother-in-law had a ‘passion for chocolate creams’ (<i>L</i>4 241). This passion was shared by VW (<i>L</i>2 62) and<i> </i>LW (L. Woolf “Beginning Again” 1964: 15), and in 1918 they bought three bars from a shop near Richmond Bridge run by a Belgian refugee: ‘The Great War was at last over’ (L. Woolf 1964: 257).</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I didn’t realise that this was a problem!  As far as I’m concerned, I think of choc. creams as a small dark chocolate with inside a creamy white filling.  The OED gives:</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><h3 id="m_700847422327790046eid336341173"><strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">2.</span></strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> An item or type of chocolate confectionery with a fondant centre. Freq. <em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">attrib.</span></em>, esp. in <span class="m_700847422327790046lemmaindef">chocolate-cream bar</span>.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></h3></div><div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid336341175"><div id="m_700847422327790046eid790342021"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1851  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Daily National Intelligencer</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> 18 Dec. (</span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">advt.</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">) </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   The subscriber begs leave to state that he has received a great variety of imported and domestic Confectionary, viz. Fancy Boxes, <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">Chocolate Cream</span>, Gum Drops of superior flavors, [etc.].<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid336729088"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1860  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">N.Y. Times</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> 10 Apr. 3/4 (</span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">advt.</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">) </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   Maillard's Chocolate... <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">Chocolate Creams</span>, Chocolate Caramels, [etc.].<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid336729098"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1861  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Illustr. London News</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> 9 Feb. 124/2 (</span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">advt.</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">) </span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   Frys' <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">Chocolate Creams</span>.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid9543246"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1879  </span></span><span class="m_700847422327790046smallcaps"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">C. M. Yonge</span></span><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Magnum Bonum</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> I. iv. 58</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   We'd got nothing to eat but <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">chocolate creams</span>.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid336729107"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1893  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Proc. Ackworth Old Scholars' Assoc.</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></span><strong><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">12</span></strong><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> 34</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   To one unaccustomed to boys and their ways, a jam tart, a bar of <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">chocolate cream</span>, a cocoanut, and a mixture known as turkish delight..would seem to break the elementary laws of health.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid310401614"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1906  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Daily Chron.</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> 25 July 6/4</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   A shop-worn <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">chocolate-cream bar</span>.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid336729115"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1917  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">McClure's Mag.</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> Mar. 48/1</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   In the Lowney factories most <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">chocolate cream</span> centers are fashioned in molds.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid336729123"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1992  </span></span><span class="m_700847422327790046smallcaps"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">M. Baren</span></span><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">How it all Began</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> 25/1</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   The increased demand was at least partly due to the introduction of the now famous <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">chocolate cream bar</span> in 1866.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_700847422327790046eid336729131"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">2012  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Weekend Austral.</span></em><span class="m_700847422327790046noindent"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> (Nexis) 21 Apr. 17</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">   This is a romantic comedy, after all—as sweet as a box of soft-centred <span class="m_700847422327790046quotationkeyword">chocolate creams</span>.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="m_700847422327790046quotations"><span class="m_700847422327790046quotationdate"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1851—2012</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">However, on the TV yesterday on an antiques programme, an enamel advert from what I took to be 1910-26 of the famous Fry’s 5 boys made me look at the boy on the R more closely, and he seems to have a *bar* of chocolate in his mouth rather than a choc. with a fondant centre. This here is not the ad. I saw, but similar of course (it was clearer on the one I saw):</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1" title="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00158N5FI?psc=1" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/<wbr>B00158N5FI?psc=1</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">You can find lots of them here:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2" title="https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=expectation+fry%27s+five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2" target="_blank">https://www.bing.com/images/<wbr>search?q=expectation+fry%27s+<wbr>five+boys&FORM=HDRSC2</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">This is the one I saw, but it was clearer on TV (& sold for at least £2000 at auction!):<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG" title="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_advertisement.JPG" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Fry%27s_Chocolate_Cream#/<wbr>media/File:Fry%27s_Chocolate_<wbr>advertisement.JPG</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I thought that Fry’s choc. creams were always like this:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454" title="https://www.cadbury.ie/products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?p=2454" target="_blank">https://www.cadbury.ie/<wbr>products/Chocolate-Cream-2454?<wbr>p=2454</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I think I may be wrong: look at “Beginning Again” p. 257 more carefully.  In summary, I think chocolate cream bars were either as described by the OED or were the equivalent of bars of milk chocolate (similar to what we get today).<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">If anyone gets any further with this, I should be pleased to hear -- to help me with “Jacob’s Room, of course.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Stuart<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Byrne, Anne (Soc & Pol) <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Friday, March 31, 2017 11:29 AM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Woolf List <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> [Vwoolf] Chocolate Creams?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div id="m_700847422327790046divtagdefaultwrapper"><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div id="m_700847422327790046divRplyFwdMsg"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style="font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545">Morning All- I have a research quest which you might be able to help me with? I am looking for an explanation of what 'chocolate creams' meant in post WW1 Britain. Why? I need an image of chocolate creams as recognised by Leonard and Virginia but as I don't know what the term means I am somewhat at a standstill. Are 'chocolate creams'  hand made (or not) confectionary (sweets in a box), biscuits (perhaps like bourbons or oreos today) or are they a chocolate bar (think Fry's) or some sort of desert made of chocolate and cream? My mind is frazzled by the puzzle  and I have to say looking at the pictures of chocolate does make me chocolate hungry. The plural seems to be important - any ideas? </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="MIN-HEIGHT:25px"><span style="font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545">The context as you probably can guess is that Virginia and Leonard celebrated the end of the war together, sitting by the fire, 'sacramentally' eating 'chocolate creams', purchased from a Belgian confectioner on Richmond Hill (see Glendinning). The Bloomsbury Cookbook by Jans Ondaatje Rolls gives a recipe for same but according to a Guardian review this is more like a Swiss roll (Regretfully I don't have a copy of the book to check). Florinda in <i>Jacob's Room</i> is partial to chocolate creams and so might I if I knew what they were! </span><span style="font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="MIN-HEIGHT:25px"><span style="font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545">Margaret Cole sends 'chocolate creams' to Leonard in 1967 after reading <i>Beginning Again </i>(Glendinning) and other readers reputedly wished they could. </span><span style="font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="MIN-HEIGHT:25px"><span style="font-family:".SF UI Display","serif";color:#454545"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545">It's frivolous I know but sometimes....Looking forward to another great conference in Reading.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545">Warm wishes</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:21.0pt;font-family:".SFUIDisplay","serif";color:#454545">Anne Byrne</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Vwoolf mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu" target="_blank">Vwoolf@lists.osu.edu</a><br><a href="https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwoolf" target="_blank">https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/vwoolf</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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