<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135334">Dear Sunjoo and Michael --</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135334"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135334">I asked a Thoreau scholar about the quote and received this response:</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135334"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135334">A variation appears in Thoreau’s journal from 1841:</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135335"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135336"><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=rpzDAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=%22ere+we+learn+the+language%22+thoreau&source=bl&ots=w8uNADqk7v&sig=GBbMdBwp9XPTCNZBreceZyOGmHw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj78_DYr9nSAhVs6YMKHbFWB2UQ6AEIIjAB#v=onepage&q=%22ere%20we%20learn%20the%20language%22%20thoreau&f=false" target="_blank" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=en&q=https://books.google.com/books?id%3DrpzDAgAAQBAJ%26pg%3DPA23%26lpg%3DPA23%26dq%3D%2522ere%2Bwe%2Blearn%2Bthe%2Blanguage%2522%2Bthoreau%26source%3Dbl%26ots%3Dw8uNADqk7v%26sig%3DGBbMdBwp9XPTCNZBreceZyOGmHw%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26ved%3D0ahUKEwj78_DYr9nSAhVs6YMKHbFWB2UQ6AEIIjAB%23v%3Donepage%26q%3D%2522ere%2520we%2520learn%2520the%2520language%2522%2520thoreau%26f%3Dfalse&source=gmail&ust=1489699345165000&usg=AFQjCNFlHWKi1VeHlJjA8Wob85qH87RLjg" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135337">Thoreau Journal 1841</a></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135338"> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135339">He did use it in <em id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135340">A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers</em>, in “<span data-term="goog_999110379" tabindex="0" style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(204, 204, 204); position: relative; top: -2px; z-index: 0;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135341"><span style="position: relative; top: 2px; z-index: -1;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135342">Thursday</span></span>”:\</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135343"><font color="#000000" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135344"></font> </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135345"><font color="#000000" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135346">“We linger in manhood to tell the dreams of our childhood, and they are half forgotten ere we have learned the language.”</font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135345"><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135345"><font color="#000000">Best,</font></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 47); font-family: "Bookman Old Style"; font-size: 16px;" dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1489585809063_135345"><font color="#000000">Emily Trask</font></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:25 AM, Michael Schrimper <mschrimp@umail.iu.edu> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5682278464"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="yiv5682278464gmail_default">
<div class="yiv5682278464gmail-MsoNormalCxSpFirst"><span>Dear
Sunjoo,</span></div>
<div class="yiv5682278464gmail-MsoNormalCxSpMiddle"><span>After
being unable to locate the Thoreau quote myself, I shared it with my colleagues
in the Thoreau Society. Two of four, at this point, are “stumped,” but we still
have two more continuing to search. We agree that your supposition about a
translation and then a retranslation (perhaps on Bachelard’s part) sounds
likely. In Walden’s “Reading” section, Thoreau talks of “youthful days” and “language,”
however it would still be a stretch (which does happen in translation) to
arrive at this sentence in question. I think the other two scholars are
searching the journal; let’s see what they turn up.</span></div>
<div class="yiv5682278464gmail-MsoNormalCxSpMiddle"><span>Best,</span></div>
<div class="yiv5682278464gmail-MsoNormalCxSpMiddle"><span>Michael
Schrimper</span></div>
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